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craig-dodd

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25th Apr 12 at 09:42

i have been temped to run a let on my gsi and i have been speaking to a member on here and looking into it on other sites.

but i have just bought a new mainfold for it and i dont really want to get rid of it, so i was thinking about having a remote turbo fitted at the end (also as its rear engined i have seen others with turbo'd engines complain or move there turbo from standard position anyway due to heat)

heres where my manifold finishes

sorry for long explination but does anyone know the pro's and con's of this type of setup? like major lag etc

thanks

leon.

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25th Apr 12 at 10:28

Must work I've seen vipers and stuff like with the turbos at the exhaust exit

thegsi

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25th Apr 12 at 11:06

Don't know how it would create "major lag?"

[Edited on 25-04-2012 by thegsi]

craig-dodd

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25th Apr 12 at 11:15

i got told that because the turbo is further away from the exhaust oulet it would take longer to spool up, but i must have been told wrong

HarleyMK

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25th Apr 12 at 11:18

quote:
Originally posted by craig-dodd
i got told that because the turbo is further away from the exhaust oulet it would take longer to spool up, but i must have been told wrong

surely it would take longer to spool up but cant see it causing to much lag.

try it and find out

taylorboosh

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25th Apr 12 at 11:30

Wonder if it sounds differant... i can see you hitting a lot of the same issues I am

scottyp1989

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25th Apr 12 at 11:32

there are loads of americans that do remote turbo, use a smaller bore pipe to reduce lag.

BarnshaW

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25th Apr 12 at 11:36

up pipe should be suitable matched to the turbo and power being run, you would probably also benefit and help spool by heatwrapping that manifold and up pipe

craig-dodd

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25th Apr 12 at 11:37

quote:
Originally posted by john-d
Wonder if it sounds differant... i can see you hitting a lot of the same issues I am

some issues yeah, what problems are you facing on the imp?

quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
there are loads of americans that do remote turbo, use a smaller bore pipe to reduce lag.

mines 2.5" on the end of the manifold so should be ok then

taylorboosh

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25th Apr 12 at 11:41

quote:
Originally posted by craig-dodd

quote:
Originally posted by john-d
Wonder if it sounds differant... i can see you hitting a lot of the same issues I am

some issues yeah, what problems are you facing on the imp?

quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
there are loads of americans that do remote turbo, use a smaller bore pipe to reduce lag.

mines 2.5" on the end of the manifold so should be ok then

Gear linkage was a big issue but think thats half cracked now
Im not running a rear beam now, instead its front hubs from a mini - keeping them straight is a problem
Mini front brakes on rear - no handbrake
suspension - how to design it

theyre the biggies at the min

craig-dodd

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25th Apr 12 at 12:01

quote:
Originally posted by john-d
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Gear linkage was a big issue but think thats half cracked now
Im not running a rear beam now, instead its front hubs from a mini - keeping them straight is a problem
Mini front brakes on rear - no handbrake
suspension - how to design it

theyre the biggies at the min

for the suspension couldn't you use a double wishbone setup and still use the mini hubs?

on handbrake issue could you use another pair of smaller callipers that use cable instead of hydraulic?

thegsi

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25th Apr 12 at 13:10

quote:
Originally posted by craig-dodd
i got told that because the turbo is further away from the exhaust oulet it would take longer to spool up, but i must have been told wrong

That's boost threshold. Installing a smaller bore pipe would make no difference to lag.

[Edited on 25-04-2012 by thegsi]

craig-dodd

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25th Apr 12 at 13:15

thanks for clearing that up, i understand now

thegsi

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25th Apr 12 at 13:33

No problem. To your OP, I don't know much about the remote set up but just looked at your project thread. That manifold looks great but it's hardly ideal for mounting a turbo. If you're thinking about a turbo, I'd look into a different manifold construction. Bit of a pig but would benefit you in the long run.

mad_mike252

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25th Apr 12 at 14:50

just bolt a turbo on

gazza808

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26th Apr 12 at 02:40

Tbh that's no remote, I've seen not much different manifolds on fwd turbo cars,
Chris suttons comes to mind,

Only hassle is your manifold runner bore looks quite large so slower/cooler exhaust gases. But should still work.

craig-dodd

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26th Apr 12 at 04:59

i think il just have a go and see if it works out, thanks for the input everyone

also just found this, manifold is similar design to mine

[Edited on 26-04-2012 by craig-dodd]

Jed D

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26th Apr 12 at 05:36

its going to get hot in there haha

eckers90

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26th Apr 12 at 05:44

make sure you wrap the exhaust well, should have no heat troubles. you can buy turbo jackets too.

I like his external wastegate, i bet that car makes some noise on full chat.

[Edited on 26-04-2012 by eckers90]

taylorboosh

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26th Apr 12 at 06:45

do manifolds really get that hot? rofl

craig second calpers may work or a hydraulic handbrake?

think im using rose jointed coilies if i can get some cheap

craig-dodd

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26th Apr 12 at 07:10

quote:
Originally posted by john-d
do manifolds really get that hot? rofl

craig second calpers may work or a hydraulic handbrake?

think im using rose jointed coilies if i can get some cheap

i think that you legally cant have only a hydraulic handbrake ad it need to stop the car in case the normal brakes dont work unless you run a hydraulic on on separate callipers and lines, if its allowed

im using rose jointed coilovers too, Protech shocks, these are around £100 each
you can get them from protech direct or S&S motosport 07808 889724

[Edited on 26-04-2012 by craig-dodd]

taylorboosh

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26th Apr 12 at 07:19

cheers mate on number

i did think of that for the handbrake but know a friendly mot tester, anyway the car will be running while mot takes place so handbrake will work.... see what happens tbh

Gary

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26th Apr 12 at 07:32

quote:
Originally posted by john-d
do manifolds really get that hot? rofl

craig second calpers may work or a hydraulic handbrake?

think im using rose jointed coilies if i can get some cheap

Handbrake has to be cable for MOT iirc

taylorboosh

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26th Apr 12 at 07:34

Gary

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26th Apr 12 at 07:37

Why not run some hubs off something rwd john? Surely it would make things easier. Just chop them up and rose joint them onto your chassis.

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