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TimC909
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30th Apr 12 at 17:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What are some common faults on an X12XE engine? My daily has an awful hesitation when warm under load. I thought it would be the MAF but I have just put a new one on today. I'm going to try my spare cool pack but other then that what else is common to fail? This does not have EGR by the way.

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[Edited on 02-05-2012 by TimC909]

[Edited on 24-05-2012 by TimC909]
Joe
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30th Apr 12 at 18:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why doesn't it have an egr?
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30th Apr 12 at 18:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

MAF tends to break easilly, especially if you use a cone air filter or induction kit of some sort on a standard map
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my x12 had a maf problem so did my brothers. thats all the faults we had
Col004
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Its the way you drive it Tim.. You dont give it a break


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TimC909
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No EGR as its an auto. TBH I really thought it was the MAF again but it aint. Bare in mind it only starts to play up after I have done 10miles of my 15mile trip to and from work.

Iv popped my old coilpack in so ill see what that does but if it aint that ill be a tad lost.
TimC909
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quote:
Originally posted by Col004
Its the way you drive it Tim.. You dont give it a break


[Edited on 30-04-2012 by Col004]


Its been getting driven like Miss Daisy at the mo Col.
Hows Saudi treating you?
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30th Apr 12 at 18:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Crank sensor, known for going open circuit when they get hot. Usually they make it cut out completely then it won't restart until it cools down but yours could possibly be showing early signs with it just hesitating but the 10 miles into the journey seems a common distance for them to start playing up.
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Ill give that a try Mike thanks. Cheap fix too from Autovaux so not too bad.
Quite common on V6 Derv Mercs with a similar diagnosis now I think about it so could well be.
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So fucking temperamental these engines, my brothers was hesitant, stalling and all sorts, replaced the maf which didn't help matters, garage replaced oil pressure switch, crank sensors etc no such luck. Them randomly it stopped doing it and has been fine ever since, fucking strange!

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Col004
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It's ok over here mate... Busy..
TimC909
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I hate the thing. Soon as my LET is back on the road a new relaible daily is a priority.
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afm, top rad hose bursting, the gasket behind the timing chain can go giveing the impression that the headgasket has gone as the water mixes with the oil, rattling timing chain but not as big an issue as it used to be
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Ok it has now had a new maf, crank sensor, fuel filter and tried my spare coilpack and its still no different. This is now properly pissing me off and becoming a bit of a money pit.

I thought the daily cars are supposed to be reliable and the big power stuff is supposed to break all the time.
TimC909
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Right, anybody got any ideas?

Had it on a Solus and it was saying the MAF is supposed to give a reading of 15kg/h of air at idle, mine was doing 7kg/h.

Iv tried looking for air leaks, blocked air filter, fitted a new genuine Bosch MAF and quite frankly Ive given up!

HELP PLEASE !!
Rob E
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Throttle position sensor
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Take it to Vauxhall and get them to check it out with their diagnostic kit.

No point throwing money at it without actually knowing what the cause of the problem is in my opinion.
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Plugs?
Col004
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Got a good engine here. Mmmm manual lol
possy
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let put a xe in mate ao wheel spin machine that will fix ALL probs x
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let put a xe in mate ao wheel spin machine that will fix ALL probs x
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Tried a coolant sensor?
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what air filter are you using?
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A proper brand new MAF and CTS should sort it
sc0ott
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Have you tried turning it off and on? Joking

Does the engine management light come on for a few seconds and turn back off again?

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