.Matt
Member
Registered: 28th Jan 09
Location: Kent
User status: Offline
|
Was bored and surfing youtube, came across this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8dPcLf8-kY&feature=relmfu
What do people make of it?
[Edited on 26-08-2012 by .Matt]
|
Ian
Site Administrator
Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline
|
Its an interesting concept. In fact listening to him talking about being responsible for damaging stuff, I'd probably rather be in the system.
|
JordyCarter
Member
Registered: 14th Mar 10
User status: Offline
|
I dont really get it. Surely if you got pulled over some sort of action would be taken?
|
.Matt
Member
Registered: 28th Jan 09
Location: Kent
User status: Offline
|
Indeed it is, if you read the link in his description from the DVLA, it refers to "Driver" where as he stats that he is not a "Driver" and therefor the law does not apply to him.
I'm curious to find if this is infact a loop hole in there system.
|
tom130691
Premium Member
Registered: 13th Sep 08
Location: Daventry
User status: Offline
|
awkwrd bastard 
im sure if it caught on everything would be reworded to avoid the "loophole"
not convinced
|
.Matt
Member
Registered: 28th Jan 09
Location: Kent
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by JordyCarter
I dont really get it. Surely if you got pulled over some sort of action would be taken?
They could not really do anything..
As far as my understanding off common law, you would have to be doing something illegal for them to seize his private property. Where as the car would not be registered by the dvla and he is not a driver, they can't in force the laws against him.
They couldn't take or remove his car as it would be theft.
|
ryzer
Member
Registered: 18th Mar 03
Location: Berkshire Drives:UGLY MUG
User status: Offline
|
A load of old rubbish, he would be arrested, thrown In Front of the courts and be royally bummed.
|
John
Member
Registered: 30th Jun 03
User status: Offline
|
I got bored of that after a couple of minutes, what a lot of shite.
|
JaffaTB
Member
Registered: 7th Oct 09
Location: Sheffield, South Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
I bet he always uses "its cos im black'" in arguments with people in authority aswell
|
Bonney
Member
Registered: 14th Nov 04
Location: St Helens
User status: Offline
|
Like his way of thinking.
Makes me wander how many things nowadays are worded wrongly, As in everyday things tat nearly all of the public do?
|
hoppydan
Member
Registered: 16th Oct 10
User status: Offline
|
watching a video of him when he has been pulled over... saying he has no name or address and saying he does not know his date of birth
basicaly saying so much that it just confuses the police oficers
|
midlandvauxhalls
Member
Registered: 23rd Jul 05
Location: Leicester
User status: Offline
|
same guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFE7qpFq-G4&feature=relmfu
|
hoppydan
Member
Registered: 16th Oct 10
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by midlandvauxhalls
same guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFE7qpFq-G4&feature=relmfu
ecactly what i am watching lol
|
Mike
Organiser: North West and North Wales
Premium Member
Registered: 20th May 06
Location: nr. Skipton, North Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
So as suspected, he still gets dealt with in the same way, car seized, arrested etc. but he won't be able to get his car back (due to lack of documents) until he goes to court and is proven innocent, at which point the car will have most likely been crushed, then he'd have to go to court again over the matter of the police 'stealing' and crushing his car.
Oh, plus the third court appearance to try and get his 20 grand payment for getting out of his car 
I don't know, maybe the numbers do actually work in the end but as I am a 'driver' in the legal sense anyway, I'll stick with the seemingly much more hassle free option.
|
Welsh Dan
Member
Registered: 23rd Mar 00
User status: Offline
|
Its not a loophole, this freeman of the land nonsense is bollocks.
He's basically relying on his interpretation of common law, and assuming that common law is the only law that applies. The RTA and various other acts and statutes still apply, so he'd still get his car taken, still get reported and when they wind up the judge by asking who appointed them, get a few weeks for their trouble.
|
Gaz
Member
Registered: 24th Aug 03
Location: Widnes, Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
I've watched a few of these types of video's over the past year where "Common law" is used to defend their understanding of written law.
Although he has found a loophole, and he is technically right, if everyone did this then we would be fucked over.
These people are so two faced it's unreal, they will spout shit to police about their indepth knowledge of the law and how and why it doesn't apply to them however as soon as they have a confrontation from someone who is going to hurt them, they cry away and ask for help from such things as the police.
Systems are created to cater for the majority, E.G the DVLA, it won't suit or be popular with some people but it does the best possible job for the greater good of the public.
In response to his "I accept full liability" when involved in a crash, this would only be worth anything in a written contract which I would bet my last £1 he hasn't got prewritten in the event of a crash. So these slippery kinds would tel you to take them to court and then as it's Common Law and the public own the common laws as they agree for them to be enforce, he would simply say he doesn't agree with the aledged accident.
|
Gaz
Member
Registered: 24th Aug 03
Location: Widnes, Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
there are 3 parts to the below video, but number two shows just the lengths of how much they have read and interpreted "Law"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-euzvhj28&feature=relmfu
|
Eddie.2k
Member
Registered: 4th Dec 06
User status: Offline
|
I like where he says the authority agrees with what he has sent them, then later on he says when i say they agree with me they have not come back and denied, they have just stayed silent
|
Gaz
Member
Registered: 24th Aug 03
Location: Widnes, Cheshire
User status: Offline
|
for me, it's the cockyness of the approach, but when the police decide enough is enough then he become sheepish.
|
Welsh Dan
Member
Registered: 23rd Mar 00
User status: Offline
|
Its not a loophole though. Stupidity is not a defence.
|
ed
Member
Registered: 10th Sep 03
User status: Offline
|
You can't just pick and choose what laws you want to abide just because you can word something in your favour. I'm sure when he ends up in court he wont be feeling so smart.
|
baza31
Member
Registered: 19th Apr 03
Location: yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
I like the idea but couldn't be bothered with the agro if anything was to happen. Although I do think the cost of motoring is ridiculous , from the stupidly high fuel tax to increasing cost of insurance and so on. Basically the only choice we have is if we want to drive is to pay it . I do like the idea of being able to go alone and do your own thing but you would soon get financially punished
|
pow
Premium Member
Registered: 11th Sep 06
Location: Hazlemere, Buckinghamshire
User status: Offline
|
£20,000 for stepping out the car
|
pow
Premium Member
Registered: 11th Sep 06
Location: Hazlemere, Buckinghamshire
User status: Offline
|
Cunt should be thrown in prision for wasting police time. Stupid idiot
|
Andy Stocker
Member
Registered: 31st Aug 00
Location: Herts Drives: Porsche 911
User status: Offline
|
Would he still have to mot his car?
|
