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Colin
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15th Sep 12 at 10:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
My 3 series oil warning light came on last night low oil. Cars only done 5k miles, service due in 14k according to the trip comp.

It's a petrol, is it strange for a petrol to need oil after 5k miles?
Joe
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15th Sep 12 at 10:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Most new cars will use a bit of oil, wouldn't worry about it personally.
Colin
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I thought it was normal for diesels to use some oil but not petrol.

I've never owned a brand new car before right enough.
craig8
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15th Sep 12 at 10:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Did you dip it to check its actually low mate? Sometimes the sensors go faulty

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take it back to where you bought it and make sure its not a warranty item/sensor thats failed

worst case they will let you know for certain if its using oil and why
gez bay
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New cars do use a little bit of oil for the first bunch of mileage. But not enough to warrant an oil light coming on, I'd do the above and take it back for a check.
CC
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did you check the oil level when you started driving it? maybe they forgot to fill it?
AndyCorsaSport
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If its new 3 series they dont have A dipstick.
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15th Sep 12 at 14:12   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So they just rely on a sensor? That's a good idea BMW

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Graham88
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Most new BMW's are like that now, not a fan myself. Wonder how many warranty claims will go in for blown engines due to faulty oil sensor.
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Normal oil consumption on BMW petrols is 2k to 5k miles per litre

They are designed to use oil.

If you have a service pack oil top ups are free
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BMW know they have a captive market, so they will keep getting away with stupid shit like this. Great position to be in.

In a few years they will be selling them with no engine for more money so you can just have it sat on your drive to impress the neighbours.

they will still charge you a grand to come and "inspect" it though, but you will get a "free" cup of tea and a digestive

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Was the warning light yellow or red?
In mine yellow means it needs topping up, and red means its hardly got any!
Never had red on though!
Colin
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Yellow light.

Noticed no dip stick

Yeah got the 5yr service pack.

How do they know how much to top up if there's no dip stick??
Warren G
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Its a internal combustion engine.

doesnt matter if its petrol or diesel it still can burn oil
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15th Sep 12 at 18:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Colin
How do they know how much to top up if there's no dip stick??



Superior Germanic Engineering ability. Probably.
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quote:
Originally posted by craig8
So they just rely on a sensor? That's a good idea BMW


Mercs have been using that for years, works just fine, until it goes wrong of course.. it should have both really!
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It's used a lot on the engines and hydraulics that I work with and have had sensors go faulty or wiring rubbing through and shorting out but there's always a way to check it visually with them

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quote:
Originally posted by Ludacris Turbo
Was the warning light yellow or red?
In mine yellow means it needs topping up, and red means its hardly got any!
Never had red on though!


No, red is no/low oil pressure
gavin18787
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automative reading on the dash is a good idea but dont see why they got rid of the dip stick. hardly heavy or in the way is it

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Ben G
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what i want to know is will an instructor fail you on your driving test/or it contribute towards a fail if they ask you to show them how to check the oil and it has no dipstick?
Mertin
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
Normal oil consumption on BMW petrols is 2k to 5k miles per litre

They are designed to use oil.

If you have a service pack oil top ups are free


Wonder how many people get the warning light on and think, oh Il go drive to my local dealer for a free oil top up and then never make it there?
Colin
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16th Sep 12 at 21:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Lights not come back on again, feel just slightly bit worried I can't do a visual check on the oil level.
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I'm assuming if the sensor is faulty or you are unsure of how much oil is in there, the only thing you could do is drain the oil and fill up to whatever is the required capacity (although this obviously isn't a way to check existing levels).

Who thinks of these stupid ideas? As someone said on here why not have both sensor AND dipstick?
Colin
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Yeah it seems a no brainer to have some form of duplex redundancy for something as critical as oil in the engine.

However I'm guessing less driveway maintenance increasing in dealer diagnosis and maintenance/repair be the only reason for this.

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