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I know Ian eventually watched it 
Anyone else watch? Found it really intresting and the crash was not what I expected 
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Hammer
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Yeah proper TV for a change. Interesting programme.
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Ian
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Liked it, I also watched documentaries on AF447 and the 9/11 tapes. Didn't realised Channel 4 were so on it.
Good TV. Except for a million Persil adverts.
[Edited on 12-10-2012 by Ian]
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Adster
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Yeh i watched that AF447 program.
Rather watch factual programs over x-factor or eastenders etc. 
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Robin
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Should have gone into more detail IMO
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Should have gone into more detail IMO
The same as everyone that thinks Top Gear should go into detail about suspension components...
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neil h
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Should have gone into more detail IMO
The same as everyone that thinks Top Gear should go into detail about suspension components...
Nah they don't, know one actually watches Top Gear for its technical content anymore.
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SetH
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The documentary on that Air France flight was awesome, was a little upsetting to watch though.
the last moments in the cockpit when the pilots realised they were going to crash 
I wonder how aware the passengers were?
[Edited on 12-10-2012 by SetH]
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Adster
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
The documentary on that Air France flight was awesome, was a little upsetting to watch though.
the last moments in the cockpit when the pilots realised they were going to crash
I wonder how aware the passengers were?
[Edited on 12-10-2012 by SetH]
Depends if the pilots announced the problem.
Found it weird when they found part of the aircraft at the bottom of the sea with all the passengers still strapped into their seats 
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SetH
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Did you watch the documentary? I am pretty sure that they did not announce the problem as they spent those 4 minutes or so not really knowing what the problem was until it was too late.
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Robin
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What was this?
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Adster
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Originally posted by SetH
Did you watch the documentary? I am pretty sure that they did not announce the problem as they spent those 4 minutes or so not really knowing what the problem was until it was too late.
I did watch it but cant recall them announcing any problem at all to the passengers or cabin crew 
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Adster
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What was this?
Air France flight 447
Airbus A330 bound for Paris CDG from Rio De Janeiro in june 2009.
Instruments were giving incorrect readouts due to icing outside the aircraft which caused the pilots to put the aircraft into an unnessery stall (even though airbus's are near enough impossible to stall due to a fly-by wire system)
Crashed into the sea without any warning to controllers or anyone onboard
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mantamark
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Who survived then? I was on the back of the plane and was ok. Scary that first class people get crushed along with pilots.
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by neil h
quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
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Originally posted by Robin
Should have gone into more detail IMO
The same as everyone that thinks Top Gear should go into detail about suspension components...
Nah they don't, know one actually watches Top Gear for its technical content anymore.
Know one at all?
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i only caught the end, just before it crashed. looked pretty good, although i felt a bit strange watching it. i know it was staged, but to think that happens in real life is a chilling thought.
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Hammer
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Originally posted by mantamark
Scary that first class people get crushed along with pilots.
Why?
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quote:
Originally posted by mantamark
Who survived then? I was on the back of the plane and was ok. Scary that first class people get crushed along with pilots.
I survived. 29D
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SetH
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Originally posted by Ben G
i only caught the end, just before it crashed. looked pretty good, although i felt a bit strange watching it. i know it was staged, but to think that happens in real life is a chilling thought.
very chilling.
The dialogue was real as captured by the flight recorders in cockpit.
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SetH
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I am not an avionics expert but remember that the pilot in the right seat had the stick permanently in a back position. The pilot in the left seat could not see this and was making control inputs of his own. They only realised shortly before the crash.
They said in the documentary this would not happen in a boeing plane because you can see the stick/yoke inputs as they are mirrored?
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quote:
Originally posted by Adster
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Originally posted by Robin
What was this?
Instruments were giving incorrect readouts due to icing outside the aircraft which caused the pilots to put the aircraft into an unnessery stall (even though airbus's are near enough impossible to stall due to a fly-by wire system)
Could they not just start it up again
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Adster
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
I am not an avionics expert but remember that the pilot in the right seat had the stick permanently in a back position. The pilot in the left seat could not see this and was making control inputs of his own. They only realised shortly before the crash.
They said in the documentary this would not happen in a boeing plane because you can see the stick/yoke inputs as they are mirrored?
That is correct. Although i think in Airbus's system once one control is being moved (called sidesticks in these) the other will not give any input.
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Chris C
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
I am not an avionics expert but remember that the pilot in the right seat had the stick permanently in a back position. The pilot in the left seat could not see this and was making control inputs of his own. They only realised shortly before the crash.
They said in the documentary this would not happen in a boeing plane because you can see the stick/yoke inputs as they are mirrored?
What channel was this on ?? I'll keep an eye out for it.
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Aaron
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Sounds like some of you would enjoy watching Air Crash Investigation on NatGeo. I've watched it for years. Some really interesting* stuff
*usually a sad outcome though, and it's amazing how many of these "accidents" are caused by cutting corners due to cost.
All 5 or 6 series are available on good torrent sites
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Aaron
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Oh, and i'm getting on a plane in 16 hours....
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