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Nic Barnes

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25th Jun 13 at 17:53

So my average food intake is about 2000. I've done around 1400 of burning off on the push bike,
So now does that mean my required intake is 3400? As I've eaten around 2000 and I don't think I'd be able to eat much more.

Dan

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25th Jun 13 at 18:20

I seem to remember, you should consume what ever your calorie intake should be, based on height/weight etc, then add on more food if u excersize.

So if you should have 2000, then excersize 1400, you should eat 3400 (less and calorie defeicit if you wish to lse weight)

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Russ

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25th Jun 13 at 18:26

not sure if trolling

are you trying to lose fat? stay the same? or lose muscle?

taylorboosh

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25th Jun 13 at 19:32

I think you need to eat 3400 to maintain weight... Less to lise weight and more to gain...

What confuses me is are 2000 calories of choccy the same as 2000 calories of healthy stuff, would you lose weight still?

K2 GTi

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25th Jun 13 at 20:59

How long did it take you to burn 1400 calories?

IvIarkgraham

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25th Jun 13 at 21:30

quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
I think you need to eat 3400 to maintain weight... Less to lise weight and more to gain...

What confuses me is are 2000 calories of choccy the same as 2000 calories of healthy stuff, would you lose weight still?

no, its not all based upon calories.

eating 3400 calories of healthy stuff is really hard. and you will be extremely full

Nic Barnes

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25th Jun 13 at 21:38

quote:
Originally posted by K2 GTi
How long did it take you to burn 1400 calories?

1hr 34minutes

Nic Barnes

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25th Jun 13 at 21:40

quote:
Originally posted by Russ
not sure if trolling

are you trying to lose fat? stay the same? or lose muscle?

not sure if a dickhead

Don't want to lose muscle as I'm trying to build it up. Not really got much fat left to lose.

Matt L

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26th Jun 13 at 05:43

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes

quote:
Originally posted by K2 GTi
How long did it take you to burn 1400 calories?
1hr 34minutes

That's a lot in a short time I assume it's on the mtb? As I only burn around 900ish on a 2hour ride.

sc0ott

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26th Jun 13 at 06:02

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes

quote:
Originally posted by Russ
not sure if trolling

are you trying to lose fat? stay the same? or lose muscle?
not sure if a dickhead

Don't want to lose muscle as I'm trying to build it up. Not really got much fat left to lose.

What categories would you say youre in/at?

Russ

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26th Jun 13 at 06:23

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes

quote:
Originally posted by Russ
not sure if trolling

are you trying to lose fat? stay the same? or lose muscle?
not sure if a dickhead

Don't want to lose muscle as I'm trying to build it up. Not really got much fat left to lose.

not sure if hamburgers

if you are trying to build muscle, you will need a calorie surplus, so you need to find out how many calories you need each day just to be Nic Kwikfit Barnes.

then you need to calculate roughly how many calories you burn doing your biking, then you will need to eat all of that total plus more, and you will need to consume at least 1g of protein per lb of healthy body weight. theres nothing wrong with drinking 6 pints of milk a day on top of your food for a few months, your weight will increase but so will your muscle, then you may need to cut a bit of fat after you are happy with your strength/muscle (which you will lose a bit of while cutting)

Conway563

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26th Jun 13 at 06:44

quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham

eating 3400 calories of healthy stuff is really hard. and you will be extremely full

No it's not
No you won't

taylorboosh

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26th Jun 13 at 06:48

3400 cal meal plan then.... I agree with mark

Conway563

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26th Jun 13 at 06:59

My meals the last day I recorded it

6.30: 400ml whole milk protein shake, cereal
8:00: Pre gym snack - Banana
10:00: Post gym - 400ml whole milk protein shake
12:30: Chicken salad
14:30: 400ml whole milk mass shake
17:00: 2 meat free burgers, 100g brown rice, 5 meat free tapas bites, 1/2 tin baked beans
19:30: Tub cottage cheese
21:30: Pre bed 400ml protein shake

Around 4000 calories, 300g protein

[Edited on 26-06-2013 by Conway563]

Nic Barnes

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26th Jun 13 at 08:30

quote:
Originally posted by Matt L

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes

quote:
Originally posted by K2 GTi
How long did it take you to burn 1400 calories?
1hr 34minutes

That's a lot in a short time I assume it's on the mtb? As I only burn around 900ish on a 2hour ride.

yeah it's a load more physical than a road bike, plus going down the hills is a reward for the hard work getting up them.

Nic Barnes

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26th Jun 13 at 08:36

quote:
Originally posted by Russ

quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes

quote:
Originally posted by Russ
not sure if trolling

are you trying to lose fat? stay the same? or lose muscle?
not sure if a dickhead

Don't want to lose muscle as I'm trying to build it up. Not really got much fat left to lose.
not sure if hamburgers

if you are trying to build muscle, you will need a calorie surplus, so you need to find out how many calories you need each day just to be Nic Kwikfit Barnes.

then you need to calculate roughly how many calories you burn doing your biking, then you will need to eat all of that total plus more, and you will need to consume at least 1g of protein per lb of healthy body weight. theres nothing wrong with drinking 6 pints of milk a day on top of your food for a few months, your weight will increase but so will your muscle, then you may need to cut a bit of fat after you are happy with your strength/muscle (which you will lose a bit of while cutting)

so, really I need to eat a shit load more lol. The fat will obviously go as we'll with amount of work I'm doing anyway gradually won't it? Today I will be at the gym early afternoon then about 6ish off up the mountains on the push bikes again so I'm gonna need about 4000 calories today ffs. Think my breakfast is around 300.

Guess this is where the protein shakes come in handy actually

taylorboosh

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26th Jun 13 at 10:30

I think thats the one bodybuilding warehouse is good

Nic Barnes

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26th Jun 13 at 12:21

I'm trying to talk to the grown ups John, plenty of other threads for you to talk garbage in thanks.

Tom G

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26th Jun 13 at 12:22

Your should have a goal of x based on your http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

then what ever extra you do try and make up for it.

For example my BMR maybe 2500, so thats my cals i burn a day doing nothing. Now i want to diet say i want to be around 600 cals under that. That will give 1900 to play with, more if i exercise.

Protien shakes are good, can also add in oats to them to bulk them up just to meet your calorie aim not to get fat.

Tom G

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26th Jun 13 at 12:23

i normally hit 50% carbs 30-35% protein and %15-20 fats for my calorie breakdown.

Nic Barnes

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26th Jun 13 at 12:39

According to my endomondo it says at my weight and height I will have burned off 405 calories doing the 40mins of weight lifting I've done at the gym this morning. Not sure how right that is.

Today's food.

Breakfast - porridge made with milk and a glass of fresh orange
Lunch - scrambled egg (4eggs) 2 bits of whole meal toast, baked beans, Cumberland sausage and cheese on top
Dinner - homemade chicken curry with brown rice

Now I've done 40 mins weights, I'm out up the mountains on the bike tonight so I'd expect to burn maybe 1800 calories off so I will still be under my daily amount I should eat ffs.

taylorboosh

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26th Jun 13 at 13:06

Arent 4 meals a day better than 3? for your metabolism? So just add another small meal in

Tom G

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26th Jun 13 at 14:49

Thats pretty much bullshit, it has been proven you only burn what you put it there is no stoking the fire as such.

Depends whats going on with your body tbh barnes, you said you have put on some weight so carry on what your doing.

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12th Jul 13 at 10:24

quote:
Originally posted by taylorboosh
What confuses me is are 2000 calories of choccy the same as 2000 calories of healthy stuff, would you lose weight still?

YES. (you would loose weight

*Example*
Your calorie maintenance is 2,750

Say you wanted to have 6 Mars bars. (that would be 1,560 calories worth of chocolate)

Macros nutrients for six mars bars
6x 10g of fat =60g of fat.
6x 2.5g of protein =15g protein
6x 40g of carbs =240g carbs
1,560 calories

Then have 225g of whey protein (in this example im using MyProtein)

15.3g of fat
13.5g of carbs
176.4g of protein
884 calories
- - - - - - - -- - - - -- - - - -
End of day totals would be:
2,444 calories

191g of protein
253g of carbs
75.3g of Fat

(pretty decent numbers)

Which would put you in a deficit of 250 calories, so yes you would loose weight.
This is obviously less than ideal way to eat though, and purely for an example of how you could fit it in.

[Edited on 12-07-2013 by CorsaBM8]

Jamie Walby

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12th Jul 13 at 10:36

quote:
Originally posted by Conway563
My meals the last day I recorded it

6.30: 400ml whole milk protein shake, cereal
80: Pre gym snack - Banana
100: Post gym - 400ml whole milk protein shake
12:30: Chicken salad
14:30: 400ml whole milk mass shake
170: 2 meat free burgers, 100g brown rice, 5 meat free tapas bites, 1/2 tin baked beans
19:30: Tub cottage cheese
21:30: Pre bed 400ml protein shake

Around 4000 calories, 300g protein

[Edited on 26-06-2013 by Conway563]

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!!! Meat free burgers?

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