Tiger
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It's not looking good  Search and Rescue activated.
Boeing 777.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748
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c20let
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Sky News reporting the plane crashed into sea near Tho Chu Island in Vietnam.
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Aaron
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Nasty
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Aaron
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i can't imagine how gut wrenching it must be for family and friends who are at the airport waiting to pick people up who are on the flight.
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C2RL R
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I think about that every time I hear about a plane crash. Must be horrible.
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taylorboosh
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Deffo all dead imo
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AlexSXI
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Just doesn't sound right...
Some news agencies claiming it crashed in the sea South of Vietnam, others claiming it crashed in the South China Sea to the North East of Vietnam.
That's a lot of flying time from one area to another. Surely they know when they lost radar/contact?
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C2RL R
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just seen some news footage of relatives at the airport in Beijing when news came through that the flight had vanished. fucking media are cunts. trying to have a word with people who are visibly distraught.
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Rob_Quads
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Shocking news
It does amaze me that in the modern day we don't know exactly where planes are at all time.
There is nothing now stopping every plane in the sky sending back home its position every second or even 5.
Then it would be easy to have the planned routes recorded and any deviation would be alerted straight away
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baza31
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They probably had one of the cheap shitty ebay GPRS PAYG trackers
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stan_the_man
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Something fishy about this i reckon.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
Shocking news
It does amaze me that in the modern day we don't know exactly where planes are at all time.
There is nothing now stopping every plane in the sky sending back home its position every second or even 5.
Then it would be easy to have the planned routes recorded and any deviation would be alerted straight away
Is there 2 way publicly accessible satellite coverage everywhere?
Radar covers most of them in the UK/America/1st world countries but in the middle of nowhere, where they normally go missing not so much.
Then there's also the speed a plane is travelling at and how far it has to fall.
Even if it was reporting position every 5 minutes, if a system fails, you then wait 10 minutes to flag it up, you can be a massive distance away and not make it much easier to find.
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FlaFFy_91
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My mums got a app on her pone that shows every single commercial plane in the sky in live time. You can select any plane you want and see all it's info, speed, altitude, departure time, arrival time. And you can also select the camera feed that shows a virtual view out of the front of the plane to show exactly where it's flying over and how fast it's going
If there's an app for it... I'm guessing that the actual airlines themselfs know exactly where the plane is. If it's
Crashed. And even what exactly happend.
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Rob_Quads
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Thats why you sent updates every 1/5 seconds to narrow down the area of unknown. The data you are sending is minimal now using something like MQTT so as long as there is a signal its easily possible, a 50 byte packet would almost cover it
The more frequent updates the more accurate systems you can have analysing the data and spotting deviation from the normal path
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by FlaFFy_91
My mums got a app on her pone that shows every single commercial plane in the sky in live time. You can select any plane you want and see all it's info, speed, altitude, departure time, arrival time. And you can also select the camera feed that shows a virtual view out of the front of the plane to show exactly where it's flying over and how fast it's going
If there's an app for it... I'm guessing that the actual airlines themselfs know exactly where the plane is. If it's
Crashed. And even what exactly happend.
flightradar24 probably.
It uses either ADS-B or for the US flights it uses delayed FAA data.
Every commercial passenger plane broadcasts ADS-B, you can recieve it with SDR for very very cheap.
This does not equate to an ADS-B receiver being in the middle of an ocean, or a jungle, where they'll be relying on radar and good old fashioned pilot updates over the radio.
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Rob_Quads
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I know BA has an internal app that shows more accuracy than the public apps like flightradar24 but its still far from realtime
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John
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The ADS-B data is realtime afaik and easily received.
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taylorboosh
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Some one check the app - problem solved
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Tiger
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There are a few things I find strange about it.
There was no mayday or reports of problem, which could mean there was sudden or instant decompression, it could also mean there was an explosion onboard, but that would lead to debris scattered over a large area, which by now would have been picked up i'm sure. If it was a controlled descent, there would have been a mayday or broadcast to tell of a problem?
[Edited on 08-03-2014 by Tiger]
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nibnob21
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A couple of oil slicks in the sea have apparently been discovered by ships on the flight path.
MX5 Project Thread
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Nic Barnes
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How was it the show lost started?
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Jambo
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Sky saying two people on the manifest where not on board, passports stolen. Very strange there was no mayday, unless if they encountered a fault with their radio?
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Steve
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I reckon they are living on the lost island now
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Ian
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Flightradar did a Facebook post to say they had a trace up to its last known location.
Still a massive area though.
You could know exactly where the last known fix was and go there, doesn't mean you're going to find a plane. They don't float for very long. Absence of a may day call probably indicates they didn't know they were in trouble, so either big failure at altitude or another AF447.
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gazza808
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If its anything like flight 447 rio to Paris could take ages to find any thing, took them two years to find the black box on that one,
Always worries me as I use all these flights that keep going down :/
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