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Ben G

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30th Oct 14 at 12:46

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29829763

Do straight people need to declare they're straight now? Must we announce we aren't vegetarians?

[Edited on 30-10-2014 by Ben G]

Balling

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30th Oct 14 at 12:57

Read his article, he explains exactly why he's done it and why he hasn't done it before.

Jason x

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30th Oct 14 at 13:47

Brb selling MacBook & iPhone

Ben G

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30th Oct 14 at 15:11

quote:
Originally posted by Balling
Read his article, he explains exactly why he's done it and why he hasn't done it before.

This isn't just about one guy, it's everytime someone comes out as gay, as if it's like they need the publicity.

spencer88

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30th Oct 14 at 15:20

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

quote:
Originally posted by Balling
Read his article, he explains exactly why he's done it and why he hasn't done it before.

This isn't just about one guy, it's everytime someone comes out as gay, as if it's like they need the publicity.

Agreed.

Why the big deal?

Balling

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30th Oct 14 at 15:44

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

quote:
Originally posted by Balling
Read his article, he explains exactly why he's done it and why he hasn't done it before.
This isn't just about one guy, it's everytime someone comes out as gay, as if it's like they need the publicity.

Again, read the article. Fairly sure it'll be more or less the exact same reason for every person in the public light who has come out.

Don't really see a problem with it. These people are sending a message that's clearly not intended for me, so it's fairly easy to ignore.

baza31

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30th Oct 14 at 16:29

Another 30 years it will be acceptable to have sex with animals . I still think it's fucked even if socially acceptable

GB123

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30th Oct 14 at 16:35

quote:
Originally posted by baza31
Another 30 years it will be acceptable to have sex with animals.

Great! I'll look forward to that.

Jambo

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30th Oct 14 at 17:13

quote:
Originally posted by baza31
Another 30 years it will be acceptable to have sex with animals . I still think it's fucked even if socially acceptable

That's an awfully long time to wait mate, perhaps if you move to USA to a redneck county you might finally get lucky?'

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30th Oct 14 at 17:47

Just a smokescreen to stop people talking about #bendgate and #ios8failgate

Balling

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30th Oct 14 at 17:52

quote:
Originally posted by baza31
Another 30 years it will be acceptable to have sex with animals . I still think it's fucked even if socially acceptable

While your assumption is obviously based on nothing but bigotry, you surely realise there's an awfully big difference between what happens between two consenting adults and what is being forced on a helpless animal, right?

Also, you're quite welcome to dislike other peoples sexual preference, boggling as it may be that you choose to be affected by such things, but that doesn't really deduct from the fact that what happens between these people doesn't hurt you or anybody else, so there's not really any reason to have an opinion about it in the first place.
There's certainly no reason to deny these people the right to live their lives exactly as they please.

As for the quite idiotic insinuation that gay people make a big deal out of coming out because of the publicity or attention, well...

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30th Oct 14 at 18:57

I'm not buying another apple product ever again of their CEO is gay. Never.

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30th Oct 14 at 20:25

Bart

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30th Oct 14 at 20:42

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

Do straight people need to declare they're straight now? Must we announce we aren't vegetarians?

I think you'll find its the media that's making the mountain out of the mole hill.

And having one family member that's "came out", it's clearly a big deal, particularly for immediate family. People come out because it's not the norm.
You wouldn't announce your 'not a vegetarian', but you may want to make it clear to some people if you were a vegetarian.

[Edited on 30-10-2014 by Bart]

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30th Oct 14 at 21:25

I bet gay vegetarians cause a right stir

spencer88

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30th Oct 14 at 21:58

Could be worse, could be a gay vegan! Although how would that work with not eating meat?

John

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30th Oct 14 at 22:12

Just read part of it that says 'being gay is one of the best gifts God has given me'.

Don't think most religions or interpretations of God agree with that one.

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31st Oct 14 at 00:50

quote:
Originally posted by spencer88
Could be worse, could be a gay vegan! Although how would that work with not eating meat?

pmsl

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31st Oct 14 at 00:56

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I'm not buying another apple product ever again of their CEO is gay. Never.

Me neither

Steve

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31st Oct 14 at 09:56

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by baza31
Another 30 years it will be acceptable to have sex with animals . I still think it's fucked even if socially acceptable
While your assumption is obviously based on nothing but bigotry, you surely realise there's an awfully big difference between what happens between two consenting adults and what is being forced on a helpless animal, right?

Also, you're quite welcome to dislike other peoples sexual preference, boggling as it may be that you choose to be affected by such things, but that doesn't really deduct from the fact that what happens between these people doesn't hurt you or anybody else, so there's not really any reason to have an opinion about it in the first place.
There's certainly no reason to deny these people the right to live their lives exactly as they please.

As for the quite idiotic insinuation that gay people make a big deal out of coming out because of the publicity or attention, well...

I don't have a problem with gay people or feel a need to feel anger towards them. They can do what they like, however it can't really be argued that its right as far as the fundamentals of nature designed. Something isn't wired up right

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31st Oct 14 at 09:57

And agreed if it's an acceptable part of society now, no need for people to announce it

Balling

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31st Oct 14 at 10:07

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
I don't have a problem with gay people or feel a need to feel anger towards them. They can do what they like, however it can't really be argued that its right as far as the fundamentals of nature designed. Something isn't wired up right

And the reason for discussing that in the first place would be?

You speak as if nature has a master plan that you've discovered. Actually, you speak like a religious person.

By definition, whatever we evolve to is as designed by nature, isn't it? Gay people existing in the first place is a natural phenomenon, even if you do decide to view it as some sort of fault or illness, which is completely beside the point.

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31st Oct 14 at 10:10

Folk can do as they please for me. Although i dont see why such a big deal has to be made of it. All these gay pride carnival jobbing etc, what's the need? Society has accepted folk are gay now so stop screaming about it and get on with your life.

Balling

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31st Oct 14 at 10:11

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
And agreed if it's an acceptable part of society now, no need for people to announce it

I know you're not that ignorant to think it's acceptable enough that there's no need for homosexuals to have public figures set an example.

Have a look at Baza's comment and tell me Tim Cooks reasons aren't valid.

Steve

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31st Oct 14 at 10:12

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
I don't have a problem with gay people or feel a need to feel anger towards them. They can do what they like, however it can't really be argued that its right as far as the fundamentals of nature designed. Something isn't wired up right
And the reason for discussing that in the first place would be?

You speak as if nature has a master plan that you've discovered. Actually, you speak like a religious person.

By definition, whatever we evolve to is as designed by nature, isn't it? Gay people existing in the first place is a natural phenomenon, even if you do decide to view it as some sort of fault or illness, which is completely beside the point.

Gayness would never become an evolutionary result, as it would prevent evolution.

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