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FlaFFy_91

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17th Jun 15 at 12:54

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/nurburgring-speedlimits-making-sense-of-the-mess/

Not sure if this has been shown before or if it's been like this for a while? But to me that seems abit mad.

Graham88

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17th Jun 15 at 13:06

Ridiculous. They are not hard to break either.

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Graham88]

flybikeslee

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17th Jun 15 at 15:23

just been, nothing enforced

SVM 286

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17th Jun 15 at 16:02

Seems ludicrous to me.

Hardly worth bothering going if this is going to be the case.

Steve

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17th Jun 15 at 17:00

Tell us more about how you plan to do 155mph + on the nurburgring

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Steve]

Ben G

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17th Jun 15 at 17:11

Exactly

Only really of any bother to owners of supercars who have huge balls.

I'd understand if it was 100mph, but 150mph

not worth worrying about for us mere mortals.

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Ben G]

SVM 286

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17th Jun 15 at 17:23

What's the main reason for going there?

Watching very fast cars, going as fast as they possibly can, correct?

If restrictions are placed on these vehicles, then it's not really worth going there any more is it.

SVM 286

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17th Jun 15 at 17:31

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Tell us more about how you plan to do 155mph + on the nurburgring

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Steve]

That wouldn't be infeasible.

Just inconvenient, time consuming and needlessly costly.

It would be cheaper, quicker and more pleasant to fly out, spectate and enjoy the local beer.

tom_simes

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17th Jun 15 at 18:06

Lowest speed limit that applies to all is 200 kph (124 mph) on the way up to Flugplatz, where I hit just over 100 mph (GPS verified using Harry's laptimer) in my not mega quick car.

I can see that speed limit being fairly easy to exceed in a quicker car (M3 etc), and that's the problem now.

FlaFFy_91

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17th Jun 15 at 18:57

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Tell us more about how you plan to do 155mph + on the nurburgring

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Steve]

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Exactly

Only really of any bother to owners of supercars who have huge balls.

I'd understand if it was 100mph, but 150mph not worth worrying about for us mere mortals.

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Ben G]

So because my current car won't do 150+ I shouldn't bother about it?
Mate and his dad are going in a couple months in his Lichfield gtr. Pretty sure he could clear the 125mph and the 150 mark

I just think it's daft is all. People go there to go quick, set good times and watch fast cars. Seems like there trying to stop people from doing just that.

Simon_16v

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17th Jun 15 at 19:00

But remember there are the people who think that buying a sports car automatically increases their talent and they can drive fast.

FlaFFy_91

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17th Jun 15 at 19:08

quote:
Originally posted by Simon_16v
But remember there are the people who think that buying a sports car automatically increases their talent and they can drive fast.

If you mean my mate tim, he goes twice a year to the Nurburgring. Has done since he was about 14 with his dad. And goes on as many track days a year he can fit in. Knows how his car handles on track and is a pretty nifty driver aswel.

Obviously not as good as the CS elite feat Steve though...

Ben G

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18th Jun 15 at 00:03

quote:
Originally posted by FlaFFy_91

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Tell us more about how you plan to do 155mph + on the nurburgring

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Steve]

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Exactly

Only really of any bother to owners of supercars who have huge balls.

I'd understand if it was 100mph, but 150mph not worth worrying about for us mere mortals.

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Ben G]

So because my current car won't do 150+ I shouldn't bother about it?
Mate and his dad are going in a couple months in his Lichfield gtr. Pretty sure he could clear the 125mph and the 150 mark

I just think it's daft is all. People go there to go quick, set good times and watch fast cars. Seems like there trying to stop people from doing just that.

Hold your horses. The speed limit isn't all over the track. It's in 3 small areas from what I have read.

I'm sure they will have plenty of fun maxing the gtr out in other parts of the track.

Ben G

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18th Jun 15 at 00:05

Also, they're quite entitled to enforce speed limits considering it's more of a toll road than a race track.

Yes I know the lines have been blurred, but in the eyes of the law it is a toll road of sorts.

Shame we don't have one over here. M6 toll is fun, but no twisties.

Steve

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18th Jun 15 at 08:19

quote:
Originally posted by SVM 286

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Tell us more about how you plan to do 155mph + on the nurburgring

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Steve]

That wouldn't be infeasible.

Just inconvenient, time consuming and needlessly costly.

It would be cheaper, quicker and more pleasant to fly out, spectate and enjoy the local beer.

Have you ever been to the Ring? you will shit your pants before you even get near those speeds. Its not like a normal track

VrsTurbo

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18th Jun 15 at 08:27

it is like a normal track. I've had far worse experience on a silverstone track day for example when race cars on the track. At lemans cars over taking on both sides on corners etc.

Ellis

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18th Jun 15 at 08:57

I reckon with the right person in my car those speed limits could be exceeded but with me driving, I'd be happy to come away from the Ring having hit 100mph at any point. The place looks utterly terrifying

Steve

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18th Jun 15 at 10:09

quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
it is like a normal track. I've had far worse experience on a silverstone track day for example when race cars on the track. At lemans cars over taking on both sides on corners etc.

Yes, those darn barriers at Silverstone only a few feet away from the edge of the track, no run offs at most corners and those pesky elevation changes etc

Thats not even mentioning the kerbs that are very high in parts and general lack of visibility

[Edited on 18-06-2015 by Steve]

Simon_16v

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18th Jun 15 at 10:58

quote:
Originally posted by FlaFFy_91

quote:
Originally posted by Simon_16v
But remember there are the people who think that buying a sports car automatically increases their talent and they can drive fast.

If you mean my mate tim, he goes twice a year to the Nurburgring. Has done since he was about 14 with his dad. And goes on as many track days a year he can fit in. Knows how his car handles on track and is a pretty nifty driver aswel.

Obviously not as good as the CS elite feat Steve though...

I'm not referring to your mate, I just mean you do get the general middle aged man who get's himself a sports car etc.

VrsTurbo

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18th Jun 15 at 15:45

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
it is like a normal track. I've had far worse experience on a silverstone track day for example when race cars on the track. At lemans cars over taking on both sides on corners etc.

Yes, those darn barriers at Silverstone only a few feet away from the edge of the track, no run offs at most corners and those pesky elevation changes etc

Thats not even mentioning the kerbs that are very high in parts and general lack of visibility

[Edited on 18-06-2015 by Steve]

Kurbs are high at snetterton. I forget you have mass of track knowledge Steve with your endless laps of the ring and 15min sessions at coombe

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18th Jun 15 at 19:02

quote:
Originally posted by SVM 286
What's the main reason for going there?

the tailgate sticker imo

3CorsaMeal

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18th Jun 15 at 19:03

Not read it but how will they enforce it and what are the punishments?

SVM 286

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18th Jun 15 at 23:01

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by SVM 286

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Tell us more about how you plan to do 155mph + on the nurburgring

[Edited on 17-06-2015 by Steve]

That wouldn't be infeasible.

Just inconvenient, time consuming and needlessly costly.

It would be cheaper, quicker and more pleasant to fly out, spectate and enjoy the local beer.

Have you ever been to the Ring? you will shit your pants before you even get near those speeds. Its not like a normal track

No I haven't.

But i'm aware the surface is poor the course is narrow in places, it's almost impossible to learn etc etc etc. The place has history. Jackie Stewart didn't dub it the green hell for nothing.

The fact remains that you requested dialogue regarding me breaching 155mph at any point on the course.

One of my cars will do 156.3mph in 5th gear before the rev limiter halts progress.

So, it's not beyond the bounds of reality.

However, as I said, it's a lot of money, effort and risk for not much return. I'd like to do it, but i'd rather fly out and enjoy the scenery, the racing, the booze and the food.

SVM 286

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18th Jun 15 at 23:03

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal

quote:
Originally posted by SVM 286
What's the main reason for going there?

the tailgate sticker imo

Do you get a free one after your first lap Jim?

Graham88

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19th Jun 15 at 00:32

So this section has a 200km/h limit

This section has a 250km/h limit

I'm not exactly in a fast car when you think of what cars goes round the Ring, so lots of cars can easily exceed the limit. It's stupid and doesn't solve anything. Accidents rarely happen on these sections and 'limiting' people to 150 doesn't prevent them happening

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