Neo
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Looking at changing my daily but not planning on spending too much ~5k, diesel, saloon, comfy and less than 10 years old
Thinking along the lines of a 3 or 5 series or an A4 but they all seem to have 140k+ on but most have full service history and drive well without any obvious problems. Would the mileage put you off that type of car ? If it was a citroen or a fiat or something then i'd be inclined to forget the idea.
One example - http://www.cavendishuk.com/used-car-bmw-5-series-520-20td-d-se-saloon-black-4-door-service-history-20
[Edited on 29-01-2016 by Neo]
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Ben G
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Yes, because as i've seen, once vehicles start gaining mileage, stuff starts failing, such as bushes, suspension, gaskets etc.
If that's all been sorted then fair play, but it may prove difficult to shift if you rack up more mileage and decide you want something else.
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DaveyLC
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If the car has been serviced and maintained to a high level then the mileage is only relevant when you come to sell.
The issue is most people have a mental block once a car has done more than 100k miles.
Personally I'd much rather buy a high mileage car that's been well looked after than a low mileage car which has been driving into the ground..
However I'd rather sell the lower mileage shitter 
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antnee
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Most modern cars are designed to last 10 years or 150,000km so factor that it. You could find a lot of stuff starts to fail at that mileage.
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Neo
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Most modern cars are designed to last 10 years or 150,000km so factor that it
Really ? Not heard that before
From general reading most people seem to rave about bmws other than swirl flaps. Whatever I get I'll stick 25k a year on it, i'm used to having to maintain cars and pay for wear and tear items, but obviously if I can minimize how much I need to spend on it the better.
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DaveyLC
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Talking of rules of thumb.. Your average autobox is good for 100k miles most are sold as 'sealed for life' although many people choose to have them serviced.
So its worth bearing that in mind when you are considering a high mileage german saloon.
I've had mercs and bmw's with intergalactic mileage which have been good as gold, I've also had 80-90k ones with gearboxes that are juddering and slipping like a mofo.
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random dav
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Some are good some are bad. Same as a car with 50k on thats not been looked after. Milage can mean fuck all, view each car on an individual case.
[Edited on 06-01-2016 by random dav]
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--ToM--
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Swirl flaps aren't an issue with the BMW, the removal kit costs between 20 and 40 quid depending on 4cyl or 6cyl engine and it doesn't take long at all the remove them, first job I did on my 530d.
Also it has an auto box which is spot on, car drive spot on, late 2007 model, paid a bit more than they normally go for because it is a bit modified, but full BMW service history etc and it's spot on really. Bought it with the intention of keeping it for a good few years and racking up some mileage, just over 100k on it now, loads for sale on eBay with over 160k some over 200k still demanding 4-5k lesser mileage ones in good nick are 8 - 9 upwards seen some for upto 15. What it'll be worth in a few years time doesn't bother me, I wanted something I can clock up mileage on and not worry about it being able to cope.
Only thing I would say is don't get a 3.0d if your not doing loads of motorway miles my dpf hates the short run to work and back lol
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For me it would depend on the car, service history etc.
My '98 Corsa Sport which I bought in 2002 had 68k on it but had mainly been driven on motorways, had full service and never had an issue.
Volvo had 102k on when I got it, had it 2 years now and has nearly 110k. Never had an issue with that either.
I think it is car by car and what history it has.
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Neo
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Originally posted by --ToM--
Swirl flaps aren't an issue with the BMW, the removal kit costs between 20 and 40 quid depending on 4cyl or 6cyl engine and it doesn't take long at all the remove them, first job I did on my 530d.
Only thing I would say is don't get a 3.0d if your not doing loads of motorway miles my dpf hates the short run to work and back lol
Thanks, seen your project thread and looks fairly simple, didn't realize it was so cheap to do.
I do 100 miles a day, 80 of which are motorway so not concerned about DPF.
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Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
Talking of rules of thumb.. Your average autobox is good for 100k miles most are sold as 'sealed for life' although many people choose to have them serviced.
"Life" Does not mean life. It is a term that the manufacturer uses to describe the "life" of their products, I don't have the info to hand but if that was anything more than 8 or 10years I would be astonished. Change the oil.
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Jambo
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Originally posted by Ben G
Yes, because as i've seen, once vehicles start gaining mileage, stuff starts failing, such as bushes, suspension, gaskets etc.
If that's all been sorted then fair play, but it may prove difficult to shift if you rack up more mileage and decide you want something else.
Pretty much this.
Higher mile cars are used more often, and thus their relative value decreases. This is not always an issue and if maintained 100% then most thing aviodable. But the simple fact remains cars are made of 1000's of parts and these all have a "life" the more the vehicle is used, coupled with its age and storage when not in use: the sooner these parts will inevitably need replacing.
Hence why younger lower mile cars are worth a lot more. I am sure there are some decent 100K examples out there, but most people faced with bills on their 100k are less likely to fork out to fix issues as it is usually a false economy before selling. So most are not worth the effort if you ask me, and I speak with experience!
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--ToM--
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My 5 series has just crept over 100k feels 10 times tighter and solid than my 50k vxr did.
My 165k e46 I'd say felt on par with the vxr the 5 series is s different league.
I'm reffering to bushes arms ball joins wear and tear parts etc.
All depends on what you buy, a 100k rover is going to be a shitbox, a 100k German motor will be worlds ahead.
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antnee
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quote:
Originally posted by Neo
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Originally posted by antnee
Most modern cars are designed to last 10 years or 150,000km so factor that it
Really ? Not heard that before
Yup, standard among manufacturers. It may not be common knowledge as such, but it is what OEMs and their suppliers design stuff for.
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--ToM--
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Bollocks
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Ben G
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I'd say that was a fair assumption that. When someone asked the average expected lifespan of the new 1.0 engines, a guy in work said they had been quoted 90-100k miles.
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Yeah that's a highly strung 1.0 turbocharged engine, not your average Joe 1.4/6
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sc0ott
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quote:
Originally posted by --ToM--
My 5 series has just crept over 100k feels 10 times tighter and solid than my 50k vxr did.
My 165k e46 I'd say felt on par with the vxr the 5 series is s different league.
I'm reffering to bushes arms ball joins wear and tear parts etc.
All depends on what you buy, a 100k rover is going to be a shitbox, a 100k German motor will be worlds ahead.
Also depends on where you live. If it's Edinburgh where every road is caked in holes, uneven patches or sunken street lighting ducts then expect much less
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Neo
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Drove a a4 avant quattro 133k (featuring tow hook and BCT tyres), 56k 3 series and a 130k 5 series last weekend. The 5 was by far the best but was a bit battered and bruised. Found one at a BMW specialist localish so heading up tomorrow for a nosey.
There may be *some* truth in the 10 years, 100k thing as my previous car everything just started breaking at ~100k, but then again that was french and made mostly from cheese.
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quote:
Originally posted by antnee
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Originally posted by Neo
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Originally posted by antnee
Most modern cars are designed to last 10 years or 150,000km so factor that it
Really ? Not heard that before
Yup, standard among manufacturers. It may not be common knowledge as such, but it is what OEMs and their suppliers design stuff for.
There is some truth in this.. A car has to have a 'shelf life'..
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pow
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quote:
Originally posted by Neo
Drove a a4 avant quattro 133k (featuring tow hook and BCT tyres), 56k 3 series and a 130k 5 series last weekend. The 5 was by far the best but was a bit battered and bruised. Found one at a BMW specialist localish so heading up tomorrow for a nosey.
There may be *some* truth in the 10 years, 100k thing as my previous car everything just started breaking at ~100k, but then again that was french and made mostly from cheese.
Ahhhh le fromage c'est bon.
THe alfa is on 92k now, will it just fall apart at 100k?
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Neo
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Sorry to say but yes Dave. Best you know now so you can start the grieving process.
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pow
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 Mine is made of olive oil tbh
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Ian
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Used to be called MTF when I used to buy hard drives?
Trouble is the variance is so large you can't reliably quote the figure.
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pow
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Ian I have a set of 3 SCSI drives in a RAID array running at a customers that have been spinning for 13 years. I'm scared to shut the server down.
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