Daimo B
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Certain members love slagging them off. But, they can't be that bad?? How long has the company been about for? How big is the company???
Can't be that bad?
Discuss?
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Cybermonkey
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My dad wants to get one for his ST. Dads think they are great. Thats why they are still in business. You seen the adverts.?
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Sam
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People are quick to slag them off etc. but what people don't realise is that they only work on STANDARD engines not modified ones.
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Daimo B
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Yeah, everyones seen the adverts.
But what im saying is, if there so bad, then why is the company so big? Surely a product that is sh1te, word would get round, and the company would go downhill?
I think superchips do what they say. Increase rev limiter, sort fueling etc.
Isn't that all they advertise, so why do people slag superchips off?
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Sam
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quote: Originally posted by Sam
People are quick to slag them off etc. but what people don't realise is that they only work on STANDARD engines not modified ones.
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Daimo B
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Donnas isn't standard, nor is a few other peoples i've know over the years?
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3CorsaMeal
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i never known much about em, never slagged em, but never big'd em up either.....
whats the theory behind them?
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Sam
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A Superchip will only remap timing and fuelling on a standard engine, it's not designed to be totally customisable like Unichip etc.
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Sam
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So it may work on cars with engine mods, it may not, depends on the engine and the mods, but Superchips have never claimed that it always works with modded engines, only standard ones.
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Daimo B
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So why do people slag them off?
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Donna Corsa GSi
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My superchip was made for my engine mods
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Sam
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quote: Originally posted by Adam Kindness
i was in contact with there head office for ages before going ahead with getting my car chipped (cams, manifold etc etc) they said they had a setup very suitable for this.....
I went down to edinburgh from Aberdeen (120 miles) to get it done.... 10 or so maps later we settled on a map..... the car did pull a bit higher mid rpm but loved to stall coming off gas...
Got in touch with SC again..... came to an agreement to get another map down... travelled another 120 miles.... 1st map blew my ECU.... i had to stay the night and get a train home ( they paid). My car was down in edinburgh for 2 weeks or so waiting for a new or replacement ECU from HO in buckinhamshire ....... got the new ECU, mapped to what should have been good.... nope!
Got it sorted out again, but using a diff dealer..... i came to the conclusion the only way to solve the idle problem was to raise it!!! so i asked for the same map with an idle of 1020rpm...... it worked... BUT i was still unhappy about the fumes and poor consumtion....
When to unichip dealer.... SORTED in 1 night..... better power, up 10+bhp over superchips map!!
THEN.... got in contact with superchips head office again regarding upping the revlimit..... got told they could not do it on my ECU.... i then asked if they could 'remap' any hamiltons old 1.6 ECU which was the sort that could have the rev limit increased... they said yes.... anyway... took it down there again and got told ' No that isnt possible'
quote: Originally posted by Sam
Superchips have never claimed that it always works with modded engines, only standard ones.
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Daimo B
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I know u had bad dealins with them. But to be honest, i've only seen you complain about them (understandably).
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Sam
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quote: Originally posted by Adam Kindness
sam - thats why i spent months sorting it out with them... giving my exact engine spec, cam profiles etc... THEY TOLD ME THEY HAD A MAP FOR THAT STATE OF TUNE!!!!
grrrr
Research mate, this is the key...
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Sam
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I thought Superchips prices included setting it up on a rolling road?
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3CorsaMeal
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so my m8 that reckon he could buy one and just "clip it in, a 5min job"
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Sam
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quote: Originally posted by Adam Kindness
quote: Originally posted by Sam
I thought Superchips prices included setting it up on a rolling road?
some 'may'.... most will not....
they are off the shelve products....
That's pretty shit then!
Much rather have a fully customisable chip and rolling road session, even if the engine was standard ie. no air filter/exhausts/cams etc.!
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Daimo B
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IM still waiting for Mr Superchip slagger off himself to reply to this with his extensive knowledge
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Cybermonkey
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i thought you meant Patrick
[Edited on 02-07-2003 by Cybermonkey24]
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Daimo B
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Noooo, my best friend, mr knowledge god who has to have a say on everything anyway
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Sam
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Vibs!
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Daimo B
Certain members love slagging them off. But, they can't be that bad?? How long has the company been about for? How big is the company???
Can't be that bad?
Discuss?
yes superchip for GT = original Fiat mapping with boost cuts removed and raised revlimit. boost increased to 19psi. this is far too much for my GT3 and with original mapping it runs lean. PGTF with superchips being good
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Daimo B
Yeah, everyones seen the adverts.
But what im saying is, if there so bad, then why is the company so big? Surely a product that is sh1te, word would get round, and the company would go downhill?
I think superchips do what they say. Increase rev limiter, sort fueling etc.
Isn't that all they advertise, so why do people slag superchips off?
people are stupid thats why
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vibrio
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quote: Originally posted by Daimo B
Donnas isn't standard, nor is a few other peoples i've know over the years?
you'd get a better map with a unichip though and not every one that has the manztel box with have the same mods as donna
[Edited on 02-07-2003 by vibrio]
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stuyw
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ive had mine chipped n had no problems but it wasn't from superchips
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