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Author Please god help me - PC Prob (any of you will do too)
LoudCorsa
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31st Jul 03 at 07:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ok - i built a new pc last night - it all runs fine untill you try and play a 3d game then it just reboots - arghh! i have tried to install the newest drivers for both mother board and gfx - i have put DX9 on and run the dxdiag diagnostics bit - where it failed on the DX7 tests or something, i have no idea what to do - its very frustrating cos its not like its all cheap wank - i went for a pretty good make of mobo - msi - and a geforce fx5200 gfx.

anyone got any exciting new ideas?

i am gonna start trying - moving the memory about moving the modem to another port unplugging and plugging in the gfx card again - the only thing is its as stable as you like if u just leave windows runnning the only problem comes when u try run games - its freaking me out and it looks bad as i built this for a mate

chaz

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Sam
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If it reboots then I suspect you have some kind of memory/hardware conflict.
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Have you looked at Device Manager in Windows to see if there are any reported problems there?
OFcorsa
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agreed!
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Pull everything out, just leave the bare essentials in - PSU, CPU, Mobo, RAM, VGA card.

Rebuild with minimal spec, get DX9 installed and then the most recent WHQL drivers - not necessarily the mostt recent Nvidia drivers - and see how you get on...
LoudCorsa
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i have been i device manager and there are no problemos - as for bare essentials - other than the modem there is only bare essentials - i literally just installed windows xp and then the mobo and gfx drivers and then tried to run a game - i will try at lunchtime to get the problem solvad - at the end of the day i work in IT Support there are 5 technicians here so in theory we should be able to get it going but it owuldnt be the first time we have been baffeled - i mean it is a college so we cant be that good - lol

chaz

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I suspect that you are sharing an IRQ with two major components, probably between your GFX processor and numeric data processor. Common problem with newly built machines.

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LoudCorsa
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31st Jul 03 at 08:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how do u solve this?

chaz

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31st Jul 03 at 08:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
or the FX is conflicting which is whats being reported soooooo many times

and also the FX WILL NOT run up and coming games such as half live 2 because NVidia are wank. Should got the 9800 Pro
LoudCorsa
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i got it cos it was like 60 quid mate - show me where i can get a 9800pro for that much and ill get one

also - nvidia are normally good with drivers - they offer alot more support than other manufacturers i have used in the past

chaz

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LoudCorsa
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also - its an nforce2 board with a gforce card - surely these two things wont conflict with each other

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This time they arent.

Buy cheap buy twice!!

Also ATi are very good now with drivers so thats not a problem. True im looking at nearly £270 for the 9800 pro

Si
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its most frustratring coz its for a mate and i havnt built the thing wrong f you get me - its some gay as problem with conflicts that i dont really have any controll over nor could i have predicted

fookin pc

chaz

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opps

Do as everyones said above.

Run on minimal hardware. So

Power supply, ram ( singl channel), keyboard, graphics card. take it from there.

Si
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cheers for the help lads i will give an update / cry more after lunch when i will have more of a play with it

chaz

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i never run dxdiag i dont know why you did.

Did you just run it because the game didnt work?

try contracting MS. surpising very good sometimes

Si
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yeah - i only ran it cos i was having problems that seemed to happen everytime i ran a D3D application

chaz

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What did happen?

you set the BIOS up right?

like agp x8 not x4
LoudCorsa
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yup - thats all right

it just rebooted as soon as it gets to a 3d bit of either big muther truckers or gunmetal - the two games that came with the card

chaz

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Super_si
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i was nearer id sort it could be so many things.

Whats the aperture set at?

whats m/b too? MSI what

[Edited on 3131/0707/03030303 by Super_si]
LoudCorsa
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64mb appeture i think

k7n2 or sumthing - urrrr - ill find out in a tick

chaz

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LoudCorsa
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yeah its a k7n2

chaz

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my mate just laughed when i said you had errors. its a comoon problem with no answer
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my mate had excatly the same problem, pc was fine, but every time he wanted to play a game, his pc would reboot about i minute into the game.

Turned out it was a faulty mother board and the company had many complaints, recalled the lot. He got another mother board and it works great now.
LoudCorsa
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what make of mobo was it cos i am narrowing it down to memory or mobo now - gonna try update the bios now tho so it may fix it

chaz

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