Richie
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Report: Amnesty offer for music file sharers
RIAA's offer would require notarized form, source says
Friday, September 5, 2003 Posted: 11 5 AM EDT (1505 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The recording industry is expected to announce as early as next week an amnesty program for people who admit they illegally share music files across the Internet, promising not to sue them in exchange for their admission and pledge to delete the songs off their computers.
The offer of amnesty will not apply to the roughly 1,600 people who already have been targets of copyright subpoenas from the Recording Industry Association of America, which has promised to file hundreds of infringement lawsuits across the country as early as next week.
Sources who described the proposal Thursday spoke on condition of anonymity. A spokeswoman for the RIAA, Amy Weiss, declined to comment.
Risky agreement
The RIAA's offer would require Internet users to complete a notarized amnesty form that includes promises to delete any illegally downloaded music and not participate in illegal file-trading in the future. In exchange, the RIAA would agree not to file a potentially expensive infringement lawsuit.
"I'll be curious to see how many opt for this," said Fred von Lohmann, a lawyer for the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, who has criticized the RIAA's use of copyright subpoenas. "It will be an interesting measure of how much fear the recording industry has managed to inject into the American public."
Von Lohmann cautioned that the RIAA doesn't represent all copyright owners and therefore couldn't guarantee an Internet user wouldn't be sued for infringement by others, despite what amounts to an admission of guilt.
"It's not the kind of agreement that most people's lawyers will embrace," he said.
But the amnesty offer could serve to soften the RIAA's brass-knuckle image once the earliest lawsuits are filed, giving nervous college students and others an opportunity to avoid similar legal problems if they confess to online copyright infringement.
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GREG 1
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yes this is true i was told this the other day so.........
DONT SHARE MUSIC & DONT D/L MUSIC FROM THE NET !
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Adam-D
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and all that means?
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Adam-D
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i did read it all but u know
it all dont go in? he he
so if ive downloaded music say from kazza
there gonna sue me?
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Drew
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is it ok to wait till after the album in getting is done? 
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CorsaLad
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wot would happen if you deleted all your MP3's now though? Could you still get in the shit?
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m-dot
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I'd rather buy the CD anyway
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mattyboy199
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So short hand what can & can t we do ?
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GREG 1
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Basically here is a massive crackdown cos the music indusrty is loosing money and there isnt anyone buying cds from the shops anymore !!
People are getting sued, having pcs taken away, and some have been put away  !
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groom
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not from us so it dont matter
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Richie
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Just put it this way, statistics show that P2P downloading has decreased by 23% in the US.
Dont forget they havent brought the action to the UK yet, but its coming...
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GREG 1
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quote:
Originally posted by AustinPXX
Dont forget they havent brought the action to the UK yet, but its coming...
Its here 
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Richie
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Universal announced that they will drop their prices for CD´s dramaticly to invoke a new market strategy to prevent illegal music downloads and get customers back into the stores, as is reported by german Golem magazine.
"Universal is selling 30% of the whole CD market in the USA and this is a great position to start this new strategy. We hope, when we drop the prices, that customers will get back into stores and buy more CD´s", told Universal.
CD´s will cost 12,98 USD for musicians like Blink 182, Bon Jovi, Mariah Carey, Sheryl Crow, Eminem, 50 Cent and other older artists like ABBA or James Brown, prices will be round about 35 % less than the actual current album prices. The new strategy will be go live in Q4 2003. If the price cut´s will also touch the european market, is not known yet.
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mattyboy199
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But we re alright at the mo yeah ?
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CorsaLad
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so are any of you going to be part of this amnesty?
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GREG 1
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quote:
Originally posted by mattyboy199
But we re alright at the mo yeah ?
No the crack down has started !
Just dont share any music and dont download anymore !
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Richie
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I dont think so, as far as i know all the US have bought is a film piracy fight against 321 studios, the makers of DVDXCopy
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willay
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um afaik the UK isnt effected yet, people getting screwed by the RIAA are people within American only at the moment...
I wouldnt delete all my music anyway, 26gb odd is alot of collecting.
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CorsaLad
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GREG 1 - you rekon its better to delete all MP3's now? wot about if you share music on kazzaa etc?
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by GREG 1
Basically here is a massive crackdown cos the music indusrty is loosing money and there isnt anyone buying cds from the shops anymore !!
People are getting sued, having pcs taken away, and some have been put away !
Again america only, I havent bought a CD for years, its far too fucking expensive, universal studios have just lowered their prices but i think we are a long way away from prices of CDS being resonable.
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Adam
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quote:
Originally posted by GREG 1
quote:
Originally posted by mattyboy199
But we re alright at the mo yeah ?
No the crack down has started !
Just dont share any music and dont download anymore !
Only covers american users
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StuartVRS
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im certainly not going to stop for the moment nor am i going to delete my stuff. There will be ways around it as always
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Adam-D
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i hardly use kazaa anymore
only to get the odd song
or album
say once a month
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Richie
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They will never beat it, a news place calculated that it would take the RIAA over 2000 years to sue everybody
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willay
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yeah dont stop now, anyway after the last 3-4 years I dont think i'll ever buy another CD, the music industry will always release different ways of protecting their music but there will ALWAYS be a way of getting past it or someone releasing them on the internet, if they ever stop p2p stuff like kazaa they will release another anonymous way of sharring, how much are albums these days anyway?
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