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kerzo
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i am finalising my list for a new computer but havent decided on which processor to go with.

what i didnt know is that amd processors have slower clock speeds than pentium 4's eg amd xp2800 is only about 2.013 ghz but are roughly the same price. Could someone give me a run down of the pro's and con's of each processor.

Also what is the difference between a pentium and a celeron processor? I know the celeron is a bit cheaper at relative clock speeds.

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celeron is wank stain
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could you explain why mr gti? i was actually expecting you to say get a SMB processor
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notlevel 2 cache so shite for storing instructors for the cpu.

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as above ^^
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FSB is crap on them also
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Its the same.............
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no on the earlier ones i am not up to date with teh later models tho
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stick with AMD's mate It saves you loads of £££ and unless your gonna be doing CAD or serious programming/graphics or something that is gonna stress your PC to the bollocks then i wouldnt bother with intels. Although intels are suppose to be more reliable, yet my XP1700+ And XP3000+ havnt shown signs of feckin up on me yet

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ive got XP3000 processer, no probs with it

AMD may have slower clock speeds, but they still spit out the same performance figures as intels

tho i admit that the p4 3200 is slightly quicker than the amd xp3200

but amd is alot cheeper for pretty much the same thing
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are you going to have these 4.8 giga herz pentium 17 installed in your car? because last time i checked this was corsa sport, not pentium sport!
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quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
are you going to have these 4.8 giga herz pentium 17 installed in your car? because last time i checked this was corsa sport, not pentium sport!



the last time I checked this was general chat and you had a carrot inserted into your anus.


I'd go for an AMD chepa as chips and give you all you need
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quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
are you going to have these 4.8 giga herz pentium 17 installed in your car? because last time i checked this was corsa sport, not pentium sport!


Pentium 17? the New P5 is gonna be 5GHz
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STOP!!!! do not buy a processor just yet!!! Intel are rumoured to be slashing the prices of their P4 chips by 30%. This is after AMD have finally got the 64bit processor a release date. I would say AMD Athlon, just because they work harder per mhz than the Intel chips. Try looking at a top of the line Intel chip over the next 2 weeks, watch the prices tumble, and i expect AMD will do the same with the 32bit Athlon processors.

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quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
are you going to have these 4.8 giga herz pentium 17 installed in your car? because last time i checked this was corsa sport, not pentium sport!


"Corsa conversation and news, friendly chat and general car discussion."

This is Friendly Chat i believe, so PSTFU

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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
STOP!!!! do not buy a processor just yet!!! Intel are rumoured to be slashing the prices of their P4 chips by 30%. This is after AMD have finally got the 64bit processor a release date. I would say AMD Athlon, just because they work harder per mhz than the Intel chips. Try looking at a top of the line Intel chip over the next 2 weeks, watch the prices tumble, and i expect AMD will do the same with the 32bit Athlon processors.

Dave



ooooooooohhhh goody was looking at getting one soon
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
are you going to have these 4.8 giga herz pentium 17 installed in your car? because last time i checked this was corsa sport, not pentium sport!


"Corsa conversation and news, friendly chat and general car discussion."

This is Friendly Chat i believe, so PSTFU

Dave



My reply was more classy I feel
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
quote:
Originally posted by t-gangsta
are you going to have these 4.8 giga herz pentium 17 installed in your car? because last time i checked this was corsa sport, not pentium sport!


"Corsa conversation and news, friendly chat and general car discussion."

This is Friendly Chat i believe, so PSTFU

Dave



My reply was more classy I feel


Yesh. He will now be known as Carrot Anus
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
STOP!!!! do not buy a processor just yet!!! Intel are rumoured to be slashing the prices of their P4 chips by 30%. This is after AMD have finally got the 64bit processor a release date. I would say AMD Athlon, just because they work harder per mhz than the Intel chips. Try looking at a top of the line Intel chip over the next 2 weeks, watch the prices tumble, and i expect AMD will do the same with the 32bit Athlon processors.

Dave



ooooooooohhhh goody was looking at getting one soon


Dont forget you will need a motherboard capable of carrying out 64bit instructions as well as a few other bits, i expect the bridge between AGP and CPU will be different too. Also you will need Microsofts very expensive 64bit XP OS.

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I want a 3.2 P4 with HT, can't be arsed with the 64bit

MoBo will be a: Asus P4C800-E DELUXE

Product Description ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe - mainboard - ATX - i875P
Product Type Mainboard
Form Factor ATX
Dimensions (WxDxH) 30.5 cm x 24.5 cm
Chipset Type Intel 875P
Max Bus Speed 800 MHz
Processor 0 ( 1 )
Compatible Processors Celeron, Pentium 4
RAM 0 MB (installed) / 4 GB (max)
Supported RAM Technology DDR SDRAM
Supported RAM Integrity Check ECC
Storage Controller RAID ( Serial ATA-150/DMA/ATA-133(Ultra) )
Storage Controller (2nd) Serial ATA/IDE ( Serial ATA-150/DMA/ATA-100(Ultra) )
Audio Output Sound card - Intel 875P - 5.1 channel surround
Networking Network adapter - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet


Specification
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General
Product Type Mainboard
Form Factor ATX
Width 30.5 cm
Depth 24.5 cm
Compatible Processors Celeron, Pentium 4
Chipset Type Intel 875P
Max Bus Speed 800 MHz
BIOS Type AMI
Processor
Installed Qty (Max Supported) 0 ( 1 )
Memory
Supported RAM Technology DDR SDRAM
Supported RAM Integrity Check ECC
RAM Installed ( Max ) 0 MB / 4 GB (max)
Supported RAM Speed DDR266/PC2100, DDR333/PC2700, DDR400/PC3200
RAM Features Unbuffered, two DDR channels
Storage Controller
Storage Controller RAID
RAID Level RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 10
Controller Interface Type Serial ATA-150/DMA/ATA-133(Ultra)
Storage Controller (2nd) Serial ATA/IDE
Controller (2nd) Interface Type Serial ATA-150/DMA/ATA-100(Ultra)
Audio
Audio Output Sound card
Signal Processor Intel 875P
Sound Output Mode 5.1 channel surround
Compliant Standards SoundMAX with SPX
Telecom / Networking
Networking Network adapter - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet
Features
BIOS Features ACPI support, power failure recovery (AC loss resume), DMI 2.0 support, WfM 2.0 support, Multilingual BIOS, JumperFree, ASUS MyLogo2, SMBIOS 2.3 support, ASUS EZ Flash, Hyper-Threading Technology
Manual Settings CPU frequency, processor core voltage, memory voltage, AGP slot voltage, FSB ratio (CPU:memory)
Hardware Monitoring CPU core temperature, chassis temperature, CPU fan tachometer, chassis fan tachometer, system voltage, CPU core voltage
Sleep / Wake Up Keyboard wake up, wake on LAN (WOL), wake on USB port, wake on ring (WOR)
Hardware Features Chassis intrusion detection, ASUS POST Reporter, ASUS Q-Fan, C.P.R. (CPU Parameter Recall), CrashFree BIOS 2
Expansion / Connectivity
Expansion Slots Total (Free) 5 ( 5 ) x PCI
1 ( 1 ) x AGP Pro ( 1.5V/ 0.8V )
4 ( 4 ) x memory - DIMM 184-PIN
1 ( 1 ) x processor - Socket 478
Interfaces 8 x Hi-Speed USB - 4 PIN USB Type A
1 x parallel - IEEE 1284 (EPP/ECP) - 25 pin D-Sub (DB-25)
1 x serial - RS-232 - 9 pin D-Sub (DB-9)
1 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX/1000Base-T - RJ-45
1 x audio - line-out - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-out (rear)/line-in - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-out (centre/subwoofer)/microphone - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
2 x IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
1 x keyboard - generic - 6 pin mini-DIN (PS/2 style)
1 x mouse - generic - 6 pin mini-DIN (PS/2 style)
1 x audio - SPDIF output
4 x storage - Serial ATA-150 - 7 pin Serial ATA
1 x storage - floppy interface - 34 PIN IDC
1 x storage - DMA/ATA-133 (Ultra) Fast Drives - 40 PIN IDC
2 x storage - DMA/ATA-100 (Ultra) - 40 PIN IDC
2 x audio - line-In - 4 PIN MPC
1 x audio - TAD - 4 PIN MPC
1 x gameport / MIDI - generic - 15 pin D-Sub (DB-15)
Miscellaneous
Cables Included 4 x Serial ATA cable
3 x IDE cable
1 x floppy cable
1 x IEEE 1394 panel
1 x USB panel
1 x gameport / MIDI cable
Software Included Drivers & Utilities, ASUS PC Probe, PC-cillin 2002, ASUS Live Update
Compliant Standards Plug and Play, FCC Class B certified
Adam
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Should be quite good:

P4 3.2hz
800mhz fsb
ATi Radeon 9700 Pro 128mb
1024 DDR 3200
5.1 Audio
ATA Raid
Cybermonkey
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sounds like an awesome machine Adam. Just watch out for those price drops.
DAYZEE
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Intel slashed 35% earlier this week on most of their range. I don't know if the price reductions have hit the shops yet though. AMD have slashed 30% aswell.

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