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JadeM
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Originally posted by Karen
Tax Credits, free milk, housing benefit or council tax benefit?


you get council tax free aswell, what that on your property?


Anyone unemployed or in full time education gets council tax for nothing
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quote:
Originally posted by JadeM
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Karen
Tax Credits, free milk, housing benefit or council tax benefit?


you get council tax free aswell, what that on your property?


Anyone unemployed or in full time education gets council tax for nothing


so thats another non-cash benefit she gets, along with rent and milk!!
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and free prescriptions/dentist
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Karen
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Originally posted by Lupi_Lucy
I have a flat don't live with my parents, i'm in the same situation as kerry get what everyone with children gets. I'm not saying it's easy but i manage.


Well if u work u would get working tax credit and child tax credit, also help with your rent and council tax


coming from someone who works the system


Harly say I work the system
And everyone who has a kid is entitled to all these anyway whether they work or not

[Edited on 02-03-2006 by Karen]
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Originally posted by JadeM
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Karen
Tax Credits, free milk, housing benefit or council tax benefit?


you get council tax free aswell, what that on your property?


Anyone unemployed or in full time education gets council tax for nothing


so thats another non-cash benefit she gets, along with rent and milk!!


Anyone can get free milk if your up early doors
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and free prescriptions/dentist


Yeah, I should of known that as used to work at Prescription Pricing Authority (put the prescriptions into the computer) whilst I was at College.

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Harly say I work the system
And everyone who has a kid is entitled to all these anyway whether they work or not

[Edited on 02-03-2006 by Karen]


How do you not work the system...your dont work and take every benefit thats going. Kerry and Lucy work and dont take the benefits....who works the system!!
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not that its easy to get in a nhs dentist these days

something else the government have screwed up on

also i once had this idea that i think everyone no matter whether child or elderly should pay £1 for a prescription. that no one would try dodging it and there would be more money in the pot!!
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I do sympathise with some single mothers, it must be difficult on the other hand there’s some who make a living out of being on benefits...these people need people need there benifits stopped & made to work!!
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quote:
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Originally posted by Icy
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Originally posted by Karen
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only costs me £2.50 for a day ticket


£2.20



£2.50 to u
complainin to me indeed bout losin 30p


Well they are only £2.20
Big signs on the buses saying thats what they are!


well u complained to me after not lookin when i told u was about £2.50
u put that in u stupid bint
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Karen
Harly say I work the system
And everyone who has a kid is entitled to all these anyway whether they work or not

[Edited on 02-03-2006 by Karen]


How do you not work the system...your dont work and take every benefit thats going. Kerry and Lucy work and dont take the benefits....who works the system!!


Take what your entitled as long as you plan to return to work & give it back to the state

afaik Kerrys kids are at school now & Karens not - taking care of a young one all day on your own is tiring work!
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I've had second thoughts about this one , it's so tiring taking care of a young one all day on your own, some single parents seem to have an awful lot of spare time to spend on the internet

And I guess internet access might be a bit of an unnecessary expense
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Originally posted by loafofbrett
if you did 40 hrs a week at mcdonalds you'd still come home with £1000.
I would rather forego a grand than spend 40 hours away from a young child if there were other options.
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Get a job.
Learn irony
Kerry
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its all about work/life balance

its as healthy for an adult to work as it is for a child to be with its parent/s
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by loafofbrett
if you did 40 hrs a week at mcdonalds you'd still come home with £1000.
I would rather forego a grand than spend 40 hours away from a young child if there were other options.


A lot of parents whether they be single of not would love to spend all day at home with there kids, but don't have the luxury of that option

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Indeed, I just don't think the suggest of 40 hours of minimum wage is a particularly sound one.
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quote:
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Indeed, I just don't think the suggest of 40 hours of minimum wage is a particularly sound one.


I'm not giving financial advice to single mothers, Ian

Merely pointing out that there are other options, where you could possibly be better off, mcdonalds being a bad example
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Indeed, I just don't think the suggest of 40 hours of minimum wage is a particularly sound one.


Okay point taken

My point is that the state make the option of not going out and getting a job, a far too easy option for a lot of people !!

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I think the moral high-ground 'work or be a sponger' viewpoint is excellent in principle, but doesn't work for everyone.

Its a very difficult decision indeed to choose work over time with a child. The gravity of a such a decision is huge, when you (irrationally) consider that leaving your kid with someone else could be at best a bit worse for their development and at worse bloody risky. I know someone whose child was scarred after it fell in a kitchen while being "minded".

Thats not something I could live with, and especially not something I would like to risk just so I wasn't branded someone who works the system.

Having said all that, those are only concerns and outside risks, and the reality is that its possible to do it. I know a single mum bringing up three kids, who works harder than I do.

I'm not suggesting its not possible, just perhaps highlighting the fact that its not an easy fix.
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quote:
Originally posted by JadeM
the state make the option of not going out and getting a job, a far too easy option for a lot of people !!
Agreed there also.
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thing is though, cant tar everyone with the same brush, there's those with kids who get benefits and do need them as they cant leave their kid and work a normal 40 hour week, then theres those who have x amount of kids purely to live off the benefits, E.G these kids at 13 who have their first kid (usually of about 8) and are encouraged by the parents as it'l bring more money in and so they can avoid work
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My cousin is a single parent, she was with her partner when she had her son 3 years ago. They are no longer together. She HAS to work to bring in enough money to run the house ......... she is only £24: 00 a week better off than she would sitting about the house all day, but she needs that extra cash to make ends meet.

Yeah it is a hard decision having to leave your kid with a child minder, having to drag him out his cot at 6: 00 in the morning etc, it breaks her heart but to keep the roof over their heads she has no choice unlike some

[Edited on 03-03-2006 by JadeM]

[Edited on 03-03-2006 by JadeM]
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As already said if u read the bloody post I cant get a job because of where I stay ffs


dont FFS me bitch

for starters i don't believe a word you have said in this post and you dont have it so tough, your out on the piss more than me FFS.......and i'm a student

Next up, I know for a fact you got a job handing out catalogues for Kleenezze. Were any of them ever delivered? Were they fuck

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See it's people who work the system that spoil it for the ones who have no option, cos they're all tarred with the same stick


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