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gavin18787

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16th Sep 07 at 14:53

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad

quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
So is this having the same effect as something like a mantzel inlet. Or is the origional vaux inlet still more restrictive even with this mod in place?

[Edited on 15-09-2007 by gavin18787]

The inlet is still restrictive, upper section mostly where the air has to bend 90deg to get the runners.
The plastic pipe is a big part of the restriction tho.

So if you fit something like a mantzel there is no need for this mod?
As the air filter comes off of the end of the chamber on them rather then the back

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

Steve

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16th Sep 07 at 14:55

i still dont think the engine will suck that much air for that plastic pipe to really cause much of a restriction, maybe if there was a turbo in between sucking a lot of air, but not a small 1.6 n/a engine.

i dont reckon its any better than a bmc on the end of the black plastic pipe

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Steve]

Vaux Lad

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16th Sep 07 at 16:22

quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad

quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
So is this having the same effect as something like a mantzel inlet. Or is the origional vaux inlet still more restrictive even with this mod in place?

[Edited on 15-09-2007 by gavin18787]

The inlet is still restrictive, upper section mostly where the air has to bend 90deg to get the runners.
The plastic pipe is a big part of the restriction tho.

So if you fit something like a mantzel there is no need for this mod?
As the air filter comes off of the end of the chamber on them rather then the back

No, youd just have a pipe with a filter on the end, on the drivers side like normal.

gavin18787

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16th Sep 07 at 16:25

yer thats what i thought, I was just confusing myself

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

Vaux Lad

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16th Sep 07 at 16:27

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i still dont think the engine will suck that much air for that plastic pipe to really cause much of a restriction, maybe if there was a turbo in between sucking a lot of air, but not a small 1.6 n/a engine.

i dont reckon its any better than a bmc on the end of the black plastic pipe

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Steve]

If its been proved on the same RR it gives a gain, then the pipe is a proven restriction...?

DAZ1985

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16th Sep 07 at 16:36

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i still dont think the engine will suck that much air for that plastic pipe to really cause much of a restriction, maybe if there was a turbo in between sucking a lot of air, but not a small 1.6 n/a engine.

i dont reckon its any better than a bmc on the end of the black plastic pipe

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Steve]

If its been proved on the same RR it gives a gain, then the pipe is a proven restriction...?

say no more

Steve

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16th Sep 07 at 17:17

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i still dont think the engine will suck that much air for that plastic pipe to really cause much of a restriction, maybe if there was a turbo in between sucking a lot of air, but not a small 1.6 n/a engine.

i dont reckon its any better than a bmc on the end of the black plastic pipe

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Steve]

If its been proved on the same RR it gives a gain, then the pipe is a proven restriction...?

wheres the proof?

i suspect most of these gains shown here were from removing the airbox assembly rather then the plastic inlet tract itself

Vaux Lad

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16th Sep 07 at 17:20

[Quote Steve]
wheres the proof?

i suspect most of these gains shown here were from removing the airbox assembly rather then the plastic inlet tract itself

If that was the case, youd see the same power gain when fitting an induction cone in place of the airbox, which you dont

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Vaux Lad]

Steve

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16th Sep 07 at 17:21

id like to see said sock filter placed at the end of that tract to see what it makes

Nic Barnes

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16th Sep 07 at 17:21

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
[Quote Steve]
wheres the proof?

i suspect most of these gains shown here were from removing the airbox assembly rather then the plastic inlet tract itself

If that was the case, youd see the same power gain when fitting an induction cone in place of the airbox, which you dont

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Vaux Lad]

how dont you? wheres the proof?

Vaux Lad

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16th Sep 07 at 17:23

quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
[Quote Steve]
wheres the proof?

i suspect most of these gains shown here were from removing the airbox assembly rather then the plastic inlet tract itself

If that was the case, youd see the same power gain when fitting an induction cone in place of the airbox, which you dont

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Vaux Lad]

how dont you? wheres the proof?

So your saying a 16xe with a induction cone, sees a 6/7bhp gain over standard?

Ive never seen that happen.

[Edited on 16-09-2007 by Vaux Lad]

Jenko_Sport

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16th Sep 07 at 17:31

Was this on a standard car bar the sock filter?

RioVerde

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16th Sep 07 at 19:52

has anyone done this n does it work???

dan-h

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16th Sep 07 at 20:27

well it was done on my car, gave good gains

Scotty C

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16th Sep 07 at 22:01

quote:
Originally posted by dan-h
well it was done on my car, gave good gains

On a RR? or on the road?

Wont notice 7bhp on the road TBH

Dave A

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16th Sep 07 at 22:13

it was dans car that was used for the graphs on page 1

wether or not 7 bhp and a similar gain in torque will be noticable on the road, its still a gain, right through the revs and costs under £15.

IvIarkgraham

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16th Sep 07 at 22:14

do i have to take the upper and lower inlet off the remove the pipe?

Dave A

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16th Sep 07 at 22:14

no.

IvIarkgraham

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16th Sep 07 at 22:20

how do i get it off then?

Jenko_Sport

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16th Sep 07 at 23:09

Theres a stupid jubile clip type thing that holds the restrictive pipe onto the throttle body and if your carfull you can slide the pipe out from the airbox side

betrayed

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17th Sep 07 at 01:11

al have a try of this mod....

mantzel inlets etc 300 quid +

sock filters 12 quid ....

let me know when these in stock dave al be having a one to try mate

Daimo B

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17th Sep 07 at 09:05

ow much power mister...

115bhp m8, i iz got a sock filter in my inlet unit. Bo....

gianluigi

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17th Sep 07 at 11:03

steve stop being so ignorant

RioVerde

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18th Sep 07 at 20:53

I would do this straight away but i dont know how to get the pipe off,cant seem to see where the pipe ends to get to the throttle body? got any instructions pleaseeeeee?????

Olsrey

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18th Sep 07 at 20:54

quote:
Originally posted by RioVerde
I would do this straight away but i dont know how to get the pipe off,cant seem to see where the pipe ends to get to the throttle body? got any instructions pleaseeeeee?????

Beside the battery lol

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