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has he burnt that coat yet
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sand-eel
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So you actually had a nuclear explosion on top of it
There was no nuclear explosion...as they just can't explode like that.
It was just another hydrogen explosion but since its such a shit design the reactor ruptured and the hydrogen explosion, exploded all the radioactive shit everywhere.
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Steve
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how come there were people that suffered radiation blindness and scorch marks on nearby bridges etc.
iv done a lot of reading up on chernobyl in the past and am 90% sure there was a nuclear based explosion of some kind
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Ojc
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That was the core exposed to the outside world and people looking at the flame you imbecile
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Steve
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That was the core exposed to the outside world and people looking at the flame you imbecile
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Ian
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Having read that link that explains it, it's clear this problem and the Chernobyl one have fairly different circumstances.
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sand-eel
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Sure your not getting confused with nagasaki or hiroshima 
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Ojc
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Having read that link that explains it, it's clear this problem and the Chernobyl one have fairly different circumstances.
Innit doe
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emicen
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Having read that link that explains it, it's clear this problem and the Chernobyl one have fairly different circumstances.
Both in failure mode and liability/accountability.
One thing having a meltdown when a natural disaster knocks out your cooling system, quite another when its caused by your scientists ignoring warnings and disabling/over-riding safety systems.
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I got no howse got no car, muney wet but still hav loads ov muney but no howse.
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Ben D
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From what i was watching on BBC News in an interview withh some professor/expert this morning the explosion was a controlled Hydrogen explosion and apparently it was designed to do this when they vent the gasses, so sounds like it has just been hyped up by the media.
[Edited on 14-03-2011 by Ben D]
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emicen
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Regarding Chernobyl, there wasn't a nuclear explosion, just a hydrogen explosion then fire with nuclear fuel exposed to it creating radioactive ash (hence radioactive sheep in parts of scotland) and the exposed core during the fire are what caused the blindness and burns iirc.
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Ojc
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Yes thanks for telling us what I've already said babe.
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sc0ott
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Pics of the exposed core or it didnt happen.
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Fuck me eyes 
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jrdn7
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8.1 on the ricta (sp) scale wasn't it? Biggest in 100 years 
[Edited on 11-03-2011 by Scotty C]
8.8/8.9
Up to 9.0 now.
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jrdn7
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Regarding Chernobyl, there wasn't a nuclear explosion, just a hydrogen explosion then fire with nuclear fuel exposed to it creating radioactive ash (hence radioactive sheep in parts of scotland) and the exposed core during the fire are what caused the blindness and burns iirc.
Radioactive sheep in Ireland too.
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Fuck me eyes
same, i just look right at that
needs a work warning imho
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Ojc
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Look at the BBC trying to make us all shit our pants
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12733393
Fucking wankers I hate the BBC
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emicen
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My mate just posted this in fb:
Just so people have a picture of what is happening around where I live, thought this mght be helpful...
I'm living in Takasaki (Gunma prefecture) in the centre of Japan, about 200miles SW of Fukushima, so the 9.0 there was more like a 5.5 here (Strong 5 on the Japanese Shindo scale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindo_scale). We lost power in some nearby towns, but there was very little structural damage around here. Power has been restored, but 11 of the 50-odd power stations are off-line, so as of today we have had rolling blackouts in the Eastern Japan region. My area starts those tomorrow (Tue 3/15). Regarding tsunamis I am hundreds of kilometres from the coast in the "belly-button" of Japan, so they are a non-issue here.
Currently there have been over 200 aftershocks (or distinct earthquakes) since Friday, several > 6.0, but they have only registered here around 3.5 ~ 4.5 at most. After having lived here for a while and experienced lots, its weird to downplay "only a 4",but we have been de-sensitized this past weekend!
The official seismological agency has warned of a 70% chance of a 7.0+ quake in the same Sendai area in the next 24hrs, so that is a concern for people in the immediate area, but we would not see so much from that one if it happens.
Current concerns are 1) power and supplies, 2) Nuclear situation.
1) We are safe from the major effects of the earthquake, but we are running low on gas, petrol, and electricity here. I've heard the same situation has been repeated in Tokyo, which seems unecessary (they are a further 100-odd kilometres south of me), but the info from the government hasn't been consistent, clear, or helpful, so there is a mild panic in some parts. Basic info is that deliveries are not confirmed, train schedules are unpredictable, and petrol stations are selling out everywhere as people prepare for the worst, so we're all playing a bit of a waiting game. We'd also like TEPCO to release the info on the blackouts more transparently (today's were cancelled at the last-minute in some areas but not all).So the picture for the rest of the week is unclear. EVeryone is trying to save energy as much as possible!
2) The news from Fukushima hasn't been great, but there are somepositives. Key thing is that the buildings withstood a stronger earthquake than their deisgn (9.0 vs 8.2 ~ 8.4). The issues stem from the tsunami dmage (probably a design oversight, but...). Our current problem is mainly trust. On one hand, people are sharing stories through the internet, but a lot of journos are uninformed, under-informed, or just wrong. SO that doesn't help. On the other, TEPCO have had issues in recent history concealing the extent of some troubles at another plant (Monju, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monju_Nuclear_Power_Plant) which had to be closed down for 15yrs while it was fixed, delays were due to info hiding on the part of TEPCO. So a lot of people are worried here when Japan seems to be rejecting foreign offers of help and saying "we'll solve it by ourselves".
From what I understand there isn't a risk of meltdown right now, but the unfo is still unclear. One major thing is that my friends and I are looking at the explosion of the outer shell buildings as "minor"... O_o At this stage, anything that isn't a meltdown is good!
Regarding people, I have friends who are from Sendai but have been able to confirm their relatives are all safe. All my contacts have reported that their friends/relatives are ok, so we feel a little detached. Our concerns are how to get back to normal here, and how to help support the S&R efforts there. Some of them are trying to organise a group to go to Sendai and try to contribute in cleaning, they are offering to house people from their association who have lost their homes, and my work is considering how best to support the effort in Tohoku.Depending on the situation, I will try to host displaced people- can't do much clean-up due to my still broken ankle... 
I filled my car up before the panic started on Saturday, and I'm driving to work as normal (of course carefully considering the ankle Mum and Dad!). We're also trying to drive smart to save as much gasoline as we can. I am also ready for a bug-out if a) theres suddenly abig quake, or b) the nuclear plant goes a bit wrong.I had recently started cooking at home again, at the prompting of well-intentioned friends, so my kitchen wasn't full, but the cupboards aren't bare right now, so I haven't been grocery shopping much. Had fun seeing empty shelves (milk, water, TP, tissues, cup noodles, rice and bread) at the supermarket next to work. I was also able to get cash from my bank before there were any service interruptions, so I'm set-up ok for the next few days.
Thats about what I can think of right now. If anything is useful please get back to me soon, while I still have electricity (!). Thanks
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Ojc
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Why can't this happen to Pakistan or something? Send them back to the stone age.
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Steve
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rather it happen to luton
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Ojc
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Rather it happen to Luigis Nonas house when Charzino is there getting battered with the rolling pin.
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