sand-eel
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See if you are corner weighing cars..
eg front 450kgs rear 550kgs and you want 50/50 you would rise the front or lower the back.
or both
[Edited on 18-12-2009 by sand-eel]
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Jamie_Hastings1
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Thats confused me now,normally if you put the rear down a little more the front comes up too. Personally i would have it pointing down on the driving wheels. But i know where you are coming from with the drag cars. Maybe its higher at the rear for downforce/aerodynamics or just the fact the wheels are too big.
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red_top_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
I was having a think and was thinking since yours is FWD, wouldn't it be better to lower the back to put more weight on the front? As in RWD they lift the back to put more weight on the back, a wise man once said think of it like a table with a leg slightly longer, more of the weight is on that longer leg, same applies to cars.
it dont work like tht mte trust me from experienced. plus specky and gaz'd jacks theres up at the back so if it is wrong there doing it wrong too yet there posting the times 
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red_top_corsa
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sorry to cain your thread nic just trying to explain see in these pics what i mean get every bit of weaght you have over front wheels to get power down
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Nic Barnes
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yeah as red top corsa says. basically, if you have the back end lowered to what mk4_bpy would call scene, and stavs call stance, when you accelerate, the front end lifts up easy. if you have the back end higher, the transfer of power keeps the front end from raising so much. i dont actually jack mine up really. its just as it is as a road car. its something i will be doing next year if i dont sell the car.
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red_top_corsa
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i noticed the diffracne on mine. ive got some solid rear socks custom made for mine with used up pod made a diffrance
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Nic Barnes
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id do something similar i just use the car loads on a regular basis so couldnt be done with changing the shocks over. will see how high can get it to go on the coilovers maybe tomorrow after work.
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sand-eel
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http://www.loxlee-loves-engines.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fwd-v6-honda-drag-racer.jpg
http://www.retroscenemag.com/image.axd?picture=FWDD-Image3.jpg
http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/9237568/130_0702_08_z+nitto_nhra_sport_compact_world_finals+stephanie_eggum_fwd_drag_honda.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Rado/blog2/SH3.jpg
Note ^^^ They are all lower at the back and they are all professional racers.
My therory is people have seen the RWDs being higher at the back and copied them, but not really knowing why they do it.
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Nic Barnes
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my times from having the back a touch higher improve. thats why i do it. im just going off numbers from runs ive done over the years. same as 15psi in the tyres is slower time than 10psi etc.
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red_top_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
my times from having the back a touch higher improve. thats why i do it. im just going off numbers from runs ive done over the years. same as 15psi in the tyres is slower time than 10psi etc.
thats the same for me wiv tyres and by jacking my standard xe corsa up went from 15.4 to 14.9 so must do somthing
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jr
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its not so much height its weight transfer yur talking about sand eel, which is a by-product of the ride height
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Spotted the car in TV in the crail feature 
looks good
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
Spotted the car in TV in the crail feature
looks good
cheers homes. last time my face made it into the media was crime watch in 1999. true story.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by gavin18787
Spotted the car in TV in the crail feature
looks good
cheers homes. last time my face made it into the media was crime watch in 1999. true story.
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Nic Barnes
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todays excitment pretty much involved a lot of wheel spinning and hand brake turning in the snow and ice in the corsa. was a right laugh. before it snowed though was down at my mates rolling road watchin crazy noel in the digger begin to make some more car parking room.
grand. then it snowed, and then froze.
my night time picture taking ability is simply amazing. complete lack of money is kinda meaning i cant really do anything more on the corsa at the moment. oh well. time to save up for some parts i guess.
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Doug
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Can I get ur atograph? Eye saw ur car in mag nd itz well syk!
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Nick J
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Is that "farmer Matt" in the digger Nick? ....... congrats on the trophy/tv. Matt tells me this car goes like absolute stink! 
[Edited on 22-12-2009 by Nick J]
[Edited on 22-12-2009 by Nick J]
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Nic Barnes
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no its a bloke called noel. unsure who farmer matt is?
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Nick J
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no its a bloke called noel. unsure who farmer matt is?
I was meaning the Chap with the dodgy green nova!
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Nic Barnes
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oh him. oddly the other week there was a copy of a tractor magazine on his couch. very strange individual he is.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
http://www.loxlee-loves-engines.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fwd-v6-honda-drag-racer.jpg
http://www.retroscenemag.com/image.axd?picture=FWDD-Image3.jpg
http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/9237568/130_0702_08_z+nitto_nhra_sport_compact_world_finals+stephanie_eggum_fwd_drag_honda.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Rado/blog2/SH3.jpg
Note ^^^ They are all lower at the back and they are all professional racers.
My therory is people have seen the RWDs being higher at the back and copied them, but not really knowing why they do it.
They've all got massive front tyres, thats nothing to do with having the back lower, it just looks like that on them.
You are trying to stop the front lifting, if the back is lower than the front it'll lift much easier.
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Nic Barnes
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higher on the back and set to rock hard is the way.
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jr
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as said its down to weight transfer and the way nics using it is the most affective yet cheapest way of counteracting this
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lol farmer matt! congrats on the feature mate looks sweet
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Nic Barnes
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its no feature, its just some notes. i want a feature but they said no.
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