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so what have i posted thats racist?
Is the word "paki" a racist term?
no. of course its not, its short for pakistani? .
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topshot_2k
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topshot, you pay 40% tax?! what do you do?
We have a family farm, plus i also work as a Network technician.
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by topshot_2k]
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ah, okay 
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so what have i posted thats racist?
Is the word "paki" a racist term?
no. of course its not, its short for pakistani? .
It is an informal, offensive term.
Is the route cause of all problems and immigration in this country are people from Pakistan?
Would deporting all of the "pakis" solve the immigration problem?
Are the muslim protesters, including the ones in your pictures earlier in the thread, "pakis"?
How many times have you used the word "paki" to someone from pakistan?
Why dont newsreaders refer to pakistanis as "pakis" on the news?
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topshot_2k
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, its why i get so annoyed tbh. when we pay so much and get hung out to dry by this government.
member of my family was even told to go private for operation if we could afford it. Even though we pay large amounts of NI to the government.
Then this proposed 100m quid mosque 
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its been made into an offensive term to suit certain people, there is no reason for it to be offensive
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by Steve]
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liamC
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
, its why i get so annoyed tbh. when we pay so much and get hung out to dry by this government.
member of my family was even told to go private for operation if we could afford it. Even though we pay large amounts of NI to the government.
Then this proposed 100m quid mosque
This mosque you're whinging about is simply the smoke screen that you can use to vent your racism on all things foreign.
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topshot_2k
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its been made into an offensive term, there is no reason for it to be offensive
agreed. no more offensive than limey, pommie or any other term for english.
and yes i use the term paki at work. in fact even the indian guy uses it 
its thr media that try to make it offensive
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, its why i get so annoyed tbh. when we pay so much and get hung out to dry by this government.
member of my family was even told to go private for operation if we could afford it. Even though we pay large amounts of NI to the government.
Then this proposed 100m quid mosque
This mosque you're whinging about is simply the smoke screen that you can use to vent your racism on all things foreign.
not at all as i SAID if they come here work, try to integrate, respect our culture then fine iw ill wlecome them.
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stop trying to take the morale high ground. The goverment should look after its own people and religion before others. Influxes of immigrants are putting massive strain on our already stretched resources.
i pay 40% tax, why should i have to give way to muslim mosques and put up with muslims waving Anti Chrisitian banners etc?
I have no problem with ones that accet out way of life/beliefs. NOT the one who march the streets waving Anti British banners, claim benefits etc
This is our country, a christian country. Either respect it and accept it and live here happily or fuck off.
They cant even live peacfully amongst themselves let alone with other religions.
and for the record my indian mate/colleague has agreed with everything in this statement. His family own a business and pay tax. i begrudge him nothing.
I wont apologise for having high morals just because you don't
Your right, I don't think its right that we are paying for the mosk, but then if you READ things you'll see i've already wrote that.
I also agree anyone coming to the UK should learn english, but that doesn't mean that I would have any right to stop someone praying anywhere they wanted. AS said, do you even understand what they are praying for at this point?
At leat you've not gone to name calling again, so theres 1 improvement.
And your still saying indian and muslims and pakistanis as if they are the same people????? 
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Originally posted by Steve
its been made into an offensive term to suit certain people, there is no reason for it to be offensive
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by Steve]
It is the way its said.
2 situations...
At home with mates, a pakistani says something stupid/funny.
You stupid paki
Two people come out of a pub and barge into the other. One gets very angry and shouts
You stupid paki
One is racist, one is not.
Things should be made more clear cut, just like the "nigger" word. Until this is done, racisim will unfortunatly always be about.
But racisim, the mosk, and nutter arabs blowing themselves up are 3 totally seperate subjects.
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by VXR]
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topshot_2k
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its not racist. its more aggressive but NOT racist.
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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I know what would be classed as racisim in "society".
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stop trying to take the morale high ground. The goverment should look after its own people and religion before others. Influxes of immigrants are putting massive strain on our already stretched resources.
i pay 40% tax, why should i have to give way to muslim mosques and put up with muslims waving Anti Chrisitian banners etc?
I have no problem with ones that accet out way of life/beliefs. NOT the one who march the streets waving Anti British banners, claim benefits etc
This is our country, a christian country. Either respect it and accept it and live here happily or fuck off.
They cant even live peacfully amongst themselves let alone with other religions.
and for the record my indian mate/colleague has agreed with everything in this statement. His family own a business and pay tax. i begrudge him nothing.
I wont apologise for having high morals just because you don't
Your right, I don't think its right that we are paying for the mosk, but then if you READ things you'll see i've already wrote that.
I also agree anyone coming to the UK should learn english, but that doesn't mean that I would have any right to stop someone praying anywhere they wanted. AS said, do you even understand what they are praying for at this point?
At leat you've not gone to name calling again, so theres 1 improvement.
And your still saying indian and muslims and pakistanis as if they are the same people?????
im atalking about ANYone who is a muslim. white, indian, iraqi whoever.
they should not be able to pray in public in a christian country. I also find it offensive that they are allowed to hold boads with the anti british slogans on.
And yet the B.N.P march through luton was refused 
This is a Christian country, accept that, respect our religion and cutlure or fuck off, whatever you background is.
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and VXR stop trying to all mature and open minded. especially when nearly cried about the thread in General chat the other day.
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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I know what would be classed as racisim in "society".
only beause people are stupid and believe whatever they read in the sun.
another thing is, why is Al jazeera broadcast here. This should also be stopped IMO.
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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. I know what would be classed as racisim in "society".
only beause people are stupid and believe whatever they read in the sun.
another thing is, why is Al jazeera broadcast here. This should also be stopped IMO.
Why should it be stopped?
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Ignorence.... Long live the joy of peace with people like topshot around..... Whats your surname? Bush? Blair?
Not being mature, this is who I am and what I think.
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its not racist. its more aggressive but NOT racist.
Are you really that stupid? People use the term Paki in a derogatory manner and if you will find that its mostly used to insult people. If you can't differentiate between that and reality there really is no hope for you and you should shut your cake hole.
Your views are all out of sync and if you grew up in a different area you'd have more appreciation how lucky you are to live in a country where there is such diversity.
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why is it ignorant? its offensive its an anti western world broadcaster. All of these protests are not doing them any favours
how come none got arrested for them banners in london? yet if i walked with Death to Islam, etc etc i would be arrested.
Your ignorant to the fact the there is a severe case of double standrds in this country. And at the moment it favours muslims.
Labour to blame imo with the human rights bollocks they pushed through.
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its not racist. its more aggressive but NOT racist.
Are you really that stupid? People use the term Paki in a derogatory manner and if you will find that its mostly used to insult people. If you can't differentiate between that and reality there really is no hope for you and you should shut your cake hole.
Your views are all out of sync and if you grew up in a different area you'd have more appreciation how lucky you are to live in a country where there is such diversity.
so the indian guy at work, he also uses the terms paki is he racist
STFU you clown, the media have made it 'racist'. no different than pommie, limey etc
Also you dont know anything about me so hold your comments.
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by topshot_2k]
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by topshot_2k]
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Al jazeera - is not an offensive anti-western broadcaster
An indian using the term paki - well.... im sure others can answer that one
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by micra_pete]
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
so what have i posted thats racist?
Is the word "paki" a racist term?
no. of course its not, its short for pakistani? .
It is an informal, offensive term.
Is the route cause of all problems and immigration in this country are people from Pakistan?
Would deporting all of the "pakis" solve the immigration problem?
Are the muslim protesters, including the ones in your pictures earlier in the thread, "pakis"?
How many times have you used the word "paki" to someone from pakistan?
Why dont newsreaders refer to pakistanis as "pakis" on the news?
It is seen as an offensive term, but if someone was to come up to me on the street ans call me a Scot, that would be seen as a friendly way of saying where I am from. Where does it differ?
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i see where topshot is coming from thought. eg if i said "fk off you paki" its seen racist. if someone of pakistani origin said "fck off you brit" it wouldnt be racist. although TECHNICALLY it's exactly the same thing. a shortened version of each...
(although i do undertand that one is seen as racist, thats not my point)
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Originally posted by micra_pete
Al jazeera - is not an offensive anti-western broadcaster
An indian using the term paki - well.... im sure others can answer that one
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by micra_pete]
paki is no different than me calling using yank, chink, etc.
It may be more aggressive if used in some ways but it is in no way racist
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