mwg
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Wish I had seen this sooner 
http://www.skysports.com/live-chat
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Nath
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I also fail to understand how that was Rafa's fault last night - he picked the strongest side he could, and a side which most of the players involved were last season beating United 4-1 at OT.
His tactics havent changed, his motiviation to them wont of changed, its up to them once they step out on to the pitch and they just arent doing it.
Lost 10 of your last 20 games with players he has signed. How is it not his fault?!
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Mecheda anyone?
Who?
I think Geerard knows him.
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A lot of the time I don't think it's the managers fault, but at the end of the day the team is in his hands, and whether you feel it's anything he's done or not, it's his responsibility to get the results.
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Originally posted by Cosmo
I also fail to understand how that was Rafa's fault last night - he picked the strongest side he could, and a side which most of the players involved were last season beating United 4-1 at OT.
His tactics havent changed, his motiviation to them wont of changed, its up to them once they step out on to the pitch and they just arent doing it.
Lost 10 of your last 20 games with players he has signed. How is it not his fault?!
Same players who nearly won the league last season?
Id understand if they had never been any good, but the same players have shown they can perform together using the exact same formation and tactics, under the same manager.
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Cosmo
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A lot of the time I don't think it's the managers fault, but at the end of the day the team is in his hands, and whether you feel it's anything he's done or not, it's his responsibility to get the results.
But sacking him wont change things other than put the club further in debt and have even less to spend on players.
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Marc
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Yes, but some of those players, notably Carragher have a tendancy to have some really shit spells.
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strick206
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Same players who nearly won the league last season?
Id understand if they had never been any good, but the same players have shown they can perform together using the exact same formation and tactics, under the same manager.
Clearly miss Alonso more than you thought tbh
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Cosmo
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Yes, but some of those players, notably Carragher have a tendancy to have some really shit spells.
Granted, but at the same time he has a tendency to have really great spells.
Skrtel would be playing more if he wasnt in such a bad vein of form, but he seems to of lost his head a little after breaking his jaw.
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Same players who nearly won the league last season?
Id understand if they had never been any good, but the same players have shown they can perform together using the exact same formation and tactics, under the same manager.
Clearly miss Alonso more than you thought tbh
I dont think one Liverpool fan ever thought we wouldnt miss Alonso a huge amount tbh - but he wasnt the only good player out of the 11 last season, we won a lot of games without him in the side last year and played well when doing so.
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mwg
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Over achieved last year.
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Skrtel would be playing more if he wasnt in such a bad vein of form, but he seems to of lost his head a little after breaking his jaw.
Thats understandable. Smithy was never the same after his double leg break.
Ngog is an example of inconsistancy too.
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Cosmo
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Skrtel would be playing more if he wasnt in such a bad vein of form, but he seems to of lost his head a little after breaking his jaw.
Thats understandable. Smithy was never the same after his double leg break.
Ngog is an example of inconsistancy too.
Ngog is a kid, only 20 ffs!
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Cosmo
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Over achieved last year.
Dont be ridiculous, its the same team that has performed amazingly well in Europe the last 3 or 4 years.
Or is that lucky, or over achieved or something?
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Nath
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by Cosmo
I also fail to understand how that was Rafa's fault last night - he picked the strongest side he could, and a side which most of the players involved were last season beating United 4-1 at OT.
His tactics havent changed, his motiviation to them wont of changed, its up to them once they step out on to the pitch and they just arent doing it.
Lost 10 of your last 20 games with players he has signed. How is it not his fault?!
Same players who nearly won the league last season?
Id understand if they had never been any good, but the same players have shown they can perform together using the exact same formation and tactics, under the same manager.
It's not the same though.
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Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by Cosmo
I also fail to understand how that was Rafa's fault last night - he picked the strongest side he could, and a side which most of the players involved were last season beating United 4-1 at OT.
His tactics havent changed, his motiviation to them wont of changed, its up to them once they step out on to the pitch and they just arent doing it.
Lost 10 of your last 20 games with players he has signed. How is it not his fault?!
Same players who nearly won the league last season?
Id understand if they had never been any good, but the same players have shown they can perform together using the exact same formation and tactics, under the same manager.
It's not the same though.
Its hardly far off it, the spine of the team is the same minus Alonso.
Johnson in over Arbeloa (thats an improvement) and thats about it.
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mwg
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Over achieved last year.
Dont be ridiculous, its the same team that has performed amazingly well in Europe the last 3 or 4 years.
Or is that lucky, or over achieved or something?
Over achieved in the league
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Cosmo
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Over achieved last year.
Dont be ridiculous, its the same team that has performed amazingly well in Europe the last 3 or 4 years.
Or is that lucky, or over achieved or something?
Over achieved in the league
Ignore the league then, the same players still show they can perform extremely well together in other competitions.
Oh, and I dont agree you can over achieve in the league for a whole 38 games.
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My god there's some shit being spouted in here
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Tommy L
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I think you're missing alonso.
It's basically the same team so in theory should be as good, if not better. So something must of changed but what?
[Edited on 14-01-2010 by corsa_tomtom]
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Cosmo
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I think you're missing alonso.
It's basically the same team so in theory should be as good, if not better. So something must of changed but what?
[Edited on 14-01-2010 by corsa_tomtom]
Confidence is at zero imo.
Players like Kuyt, Carra, Benayoun, etc. are all playing awful, and look like they have zero confidence. It obviously stemmed from getting a few bad results at the start of the season and then a few heads went down. Got injuries to key players so heads went down more. More bad results, etc. etc.
We've not put a single run of good results together for the last 6 months and the lack of confidence because of that is showing.
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Tommy L
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I can't remember but i think they said thats 12 losses this season? Compared to last season they only had ???
That is definitely not going to help confidence if papers/tv/internet keep going on.
In all seriousness, it is a real shame what is happening to Liverpool, as they used to be a very good team to watch. This season, not so much
[Edited on 14-01-2010 by corsa_tomtom]
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Cosmo
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I can't remember but i think they said thats 12 losses this season? Compared to last season they only had ???
That is definitely not going to help confidence if papers/tv/internet keep going on.
In all seriousness, it is a real shame what is happening to Liverpool, as they used to be a very good team to watch. This season, not so much
Yeah, something like 12 in all comps.
Its shocking, and the performances have been worse than shocking even in the games we have won (had the odd good game but thats it).
It'll turn round before the end of the season, as the players have it in them, its just when tbh!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8458296.stm
and it gets better...
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Cosmo
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/8458296.stm
and it gets better...
How is this better than when we posted about this on the last page?
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