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Read my reply again and see if you can understand it?
the terms you outlined above are always asociated and used in jest and taken as a compliment, now when someone calls someone a 'paki' this is often with the intention to offend.....you still with me or do we need to go back to learning A....B....C.....
Npw the comment about media made it racist, if they did so, then this is why people use the term.....in order to illustarte their ill feelings to what they think is one whole race.
Do you ever see someone who has decent morals calling a friend a paki?
I sugest the person who thinks moving to Pakistan will be better than here do so because it may teach you how humble and welcoming another country be and take a leaf out of their book.
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by Fad]
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topshot_2k
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i see where topshot is coming from thought. eg if i said "fk off you paki" its seen racist. if someone of pakistani origin said "fck off you brit" it wouldnt be racist. although TECHNICALLY it's exactly the same thing. a shortened version of each...
(although i do undertand that one is seen as racist, thats not my point)
exactly my point.
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Originally posted by Fad
Read my reply again and see if you can understand it?
the terms you outlined above are always asociated and used in jest and taken as a compliment, now when someone calls someone a 'paki' this is often with the intention to offend.....you still with me or do we need to go back to learning A....B....C.....
Npw the comment about media made it racist, if they did so, then this is why people use the term.....in order to illustarte their ill feelings to what they think is one whole race.
Do you ever see someone who has decent morals calling a friend a paki?
I sugest the person who thinks moving to Pakistan will be better than here do so because it may teach you how humble and welcoming another country be and take a leaf out of their book.
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by Fad]
so calling a me a fucking brit is not racist, but me calling someone a fucking paki is?
sort yourself out and come back when you have a valid point.
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micra_pete
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its the context, not the term itself.
i do get your point, although i feel its a weak one.
i could call someone a bastard, it may be factually correct, however the insult still means the same 
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topshot_2k
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but then why is fucking brit, limey, pommie, jew etc not seen as racism?
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by topshot_2k]
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Originally posted by micra_pete
its the context, not the term itself.
i do get your point, although i feel its a weak one.
i could call someone a bastard, it may be factually correct, however the insult still means the same
Good point. It is all down to the context. But unfortunately, if you have not known a person for long, or have a good bond with them, they won't really see the funny side of being called a paki.
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RyanSxi
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it's all bs tbh. politically correctness gone mad.
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Fad
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
quote:
Originally posted by Fad
Read my reply again and see if you can understand it?
the terms you outlined above are always asociated and used in jest and taken as a compliment, now when someone calls someone a 'paki' this is often with the intention to offend.....you still with me or do we need to go back to learning A....B....C.....
Npw the comment about media made it racist, if they did so, then this is why people use the term.....in order to illustarte their ill feelings to what they think is one whole race.
Do you ever see someone who has decent morals calling a friend a paki?
I sugest the person who thinks moving to Pakistan will be better than here do so because it may teach you how humble and welcoming another country be and take a leaf out of their book.
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by Fad]
so calling a me a fucking brit is not racist, but me calling someone a fucking paki is?
sort yourself out and come back when you have a valid point.
I think you need to seek a valid point as you arguing something you can't even tell the difference between. 
Most people who get called 'Brits' take it as a compliment however if a white person was reffered to as a honky this is with he intend to offend. So people refrain from using the term. Not hard is it?
Now when the term 'Paki' is used people find if offensive, you know that so why can't you not use it? Is that hard?
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micra_pete
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
but then why is fucking brit, limey, pommie, jew etc not seen as racism?
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by topshot_2k]
it is, in context. unfortunately most minorities do play the "racist" card too much.
fucking cracker.
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Originally posted by micra_pete
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
but then why is fucking brit, limey, pommie, jew etc not seen as racism?
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by topshot_2k]
it is, in context. unfortunately most minorities do play the "racist" card too much.
fucking cracker.
I was just watching the episode of South Park where Chef was calling everyone crackers
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your saying its offensive and yet 3 pakis at my old work didnt, and the indian guy at work uses it all the time.
Your saying 'fucking brit' is ok as brit is seen as a compliment 
3 pakistanis i know dont find it offensive and yet you telling me they do?
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
your saying its offensive and yet 3 pakis at my old work didnt, and the indian guy at work uses it all the time.
Your saying 'fucking brit' is ok as brit is seen as a compliment
3 pakistanis i know dont find it offensive and yet you telling me they do?
Its all down to the context mate. You know them so they won't find it offensive, friendly ribbing. But if you were to walk up to one in the street and say "fucking Paki" I think they would find it offensive
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the indian guy uses the term paki? who to?
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topshot_2k
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but i could find it offensive if someone walked up to me and said fucking brit/pommie/limey
this seems to be overlooked on here by some members on the Political correctness bandwagon.
i shall leave it there.
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Originally posted by Eckmcmann
quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
your saying its offensive and yet 3 pakis at my old work didnt, and the indian guy at work uses it all the time.
Your saying 'fucking brit' is ok as brit is seen as a compliment
3 pakistanis i know dont find it offensive and yet you telling me they do?
Its all down to the context mate. You know them so they won't find it offensive, friendly ribbing. But if you were to walk up to one in the street and say "fucking Paki" I think they would find it offensive
so therefore if someone in the street calls me a fuckin brit i can play the race card? as the context is there etc
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I think Topshot is on to a point about double standards though with regards to the whole banner situation, yet no-one seems to have responded to that. Why is it okay for islamic protestors to walk through the streets with distasteful banners like that, yet if i was to walk the streets with a banner saying death to Islam (apart from get a fookin good kickin) i'd probably also be picked up by the police and charged within 5 minutes? Opinions 
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Originally posted by micra_pete
the indian guy uses the term paki? who to?
himself, me  , anyone tbh.
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All i want is an answer to my question, cba with this debate tbh 
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Originally posted by Mark1984_SRI
I think Topshot is on to a point about double standards though with regards to the whole banner situation, yet no-one seems to have responded to that. Why is it okay for islamic protestors to walk through the streets with distasteful banners like that, yet if i was to walk the streets with a banner saying death to Islam (apart from get a fookin good kickin) i'd probably also be picked up by the police and charged within 5 minutes? Opinions
would also like them to answer this. BNP march was cancelled due to 'possilbe offensive nature of it' yet islamic ones are allowed.
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andy1868
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the islamic marches weren't openly promoting racism iirc
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Baskey
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im sick and board of all this shit,
we need a good war or natural disaster to kill 99% of us so we can all start over again
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Originally posted by andy1868
the islamic marches weren't openly promoting racism iirc
ok then "Death to all none christians"
etc etc. still would be seen as racist
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Originally posted by andy1868
the islamic marches weren't openly promoting racism iirc
They were promoting hatred to other religions though
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topshot_2k
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
you really want to give these people something in our country?
[Edited on 28-06-2007 by topshot_2k]
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
but i could find it offensive if someone walked up to me and said fucking brit/pommie/limey
this seems to be overlooked on here by some members on the Political correctness bandwagon.
i shall leave it there.
I agree with you on that, as I said on the last page I can't see why there is such a vast difference between you or I saying Paki, or being called a Brit etc. But unfortunately that is the PC road this country has went down and doesn't seem to be coming back up.
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