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Steve
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I think its more of an indication of forum trolling rather than general opinion, or a classic example of a thread starting with a certain tone and it continuing, bet if this had been made a different time with a different attitude from the start would have turned out the other way.

but i may be wrong
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John is deffo trolling btw
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I think all the haters should book a test drive


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its not trolling at all and gary is right
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In which case i think they have done a genius job at marketting as its causing a debate and causing everyone to talk about it
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so? not all positive....
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary
This thread shows that toyota have fucked up.

50% of you think it needs more power
50% say its fine.

Give it an extra 100hp and the 2nd 50 will still buy it and the first 50 will be happy!


But they have set out to create what they wanted to create in the first place, so from the design point of view they have done a perfect job.

Sometimes people just create things because they want to, to make it perfect for a set role, Toyota wanted to make something balanced and fun.



quote:
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In which case i think they have done a genius job at marketting as its causing a debate and causing everyone to talk about it


Agreed, any publicity is good publicity and all that.

[Edited on 19-08-2012 by Sunz]
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The TV advert for this is quite cool.
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.. its not all about 0-60!

They have made it less grippy (supposedly)... it is rwd....


well it is when the maximum speed limit on uk roads is 70mph i reckon less than 0.5% of the population drive on tracks.
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oh and just to add, i was driving the fiesta today, 70bhp, and got cut up by a bmw 320d who thought he was the big man.

if i had more power than him, i wouldn't have been cut up.
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obviously this is real world driving and not in a world where everyone go on trackdays.
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quote:
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.. its not all about 0-60!

They have made it less grippy (supposedly)... it is rwd....


well it is when the maximum speed limit on uk roads is 70mph i reckon less than 0.5% of the population drive on tracks.


Going by that logic, even if the car had 50bhp more which is what most people are arguing it needs, it would make bugger all difference below 70 mph really, maybe half a cars length from the lights.

Id say quite a large % drive on B roads at some point though
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bugger all difference and half a cars length are 2 different things.

say that to an f1 driver, i'm sure he will disagree.

b road single carriageways are 60mph, and need power even more from 0-60 due to the constant twisty corners.
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This thread is getting more ridiculous by the page
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i just want to get people even more angry tbh i find it hilarious that people bang on about steves motor needing more power, then say the toyota gt86 has enough power as it is.

i reckon bhp/ton on both cars are almost the same.
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Steve's car does need another 600bhp tbh.
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IM GOING FUCKING BALLASITIC
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needs an mdf front splitter
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or 12mm HDPE plastic
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Grate looking car. Sound bit pants though.

I think it could be a good car to get to learn about rwd dynamics.
Seems a touch under power though. Well, maybe not power but maybe another 50ft lbs of torque a touch lower in the rev range?
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hmm, would say probs needs 12.5 extra lbs/ft torque at 3100 RPM
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Sarcastic bastard.
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can't have your own opinion on here nick else you get shot down by the nuremburg rally ring track elitists.
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Chris Harris likes it, that's good enough for me.

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