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Originally posted by Ian
but no one is calling me a paedo.


Mass bannings if people did that
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Doesn't make it right that people jump on Steve but they don't pick up on anything I've said. I'd prefer it that people didn't fag out of being honest if that is how they feel.
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I'd prefer it that people didn't fag out of being honest if that is how they feel.


Too scared of their reps most likely tbh.

[Edited on 29-09-2012 by V931_FEF]
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I never called Steve a paedo,I don't agree with a 15 year old with a 30 year old though
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I don't see Steve endorsing it like its completely fine.
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Steve got picked on because he kept banging on about it. If anyone has the same views then step away from the school gates
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Was he talking to himself? Because for him to bang on about it, people would need to be engaging him?

So Steve got picked on because he continued to question the points put across by other people?

I'm feeling Steve got picked on because its fashionable to pick on Steve and very easy to throw some paedo mud because you're somehow above all that dirty minded behaviour even though PAFF is full of boys beasting over girls half their age.

Quote me the bits where he's a paedo.

I think he, as I, as a few other people said is that the girl is probably no stranger to intimacy and its quite profound that a few weeks, time which has no bearing on preparation sexually, can make the difference between jail and nothing.

Not sure he's ever suggested that guy was an asset to the profession.

[Edited on 29-09-2012 by Ian]
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Maybe the guy should be jailed though, clearly a couple of pieces short of a picnic.
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people pick on him because they think it makes them part of some internet gang.

it's usually people who've been bullied in real life who go on to pick on people on the internet, because they can hide behind a screen and not get hit.
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Maybe the guy should be jailed though, clearly a couple of pieces short of a picnic.


Danger to the public?
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for once in my life i agree with steve, on no the internet might want me banned from being near my own kids

if he wasnt her teacher their wouldnt have been all this hype
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The teacher thing is a big one though.

Plus it would still be illegal.
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quote:
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Maybe the guy should be jailed though, clearly a couple of pieces short of a picnic.


Danger to the public?


Manage to get enough of an education to be a teacher, reach 30 years of age then still run away to France with a pupil, possibly.
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people pick on him because they think it makes them part of some internet gang.



Which is fucking pathetic tbh.
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Manage to get enough of an education to be a teacher, reach 30 years of age then still run away to France with a pupil, possibly.


With whom he's been in a relationship for some time, and who appears to be affording him consent?
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quote:
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Manage to get enough of an education to be a teacher, reach 30 years of age then still run away to France with a pupil, possibly.


With whom he's been in a relationship for some time, and who appears to be affording him consent?


Exactly. The first issue is the 'legal' age of consent in Britain as set out by parliament.
What is the age of consent in other countries?
I believe some are around 14 and have much lower teenage pregnancy rates.
And if we take this from a sociology point of view. Rules are socially created rules by one group that are not necessarily the view of the greater society.
Nowadays there are 15 year olds and even 14 year olds that are more advanced and grown up than some 16 year olds and definitely more advanced than 16 year olds when these rules were created.


The second issue of his job is a major one in the trust issue and if he is a danger. He has crossed the line but without knowing his full history we cannot say wether he is an actual danger to children.
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He stil should have said no.
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Are Ian and Spencer saying that because the child consented that it's ok?

I don't need to know his full history either, my post above covers why.

[Edited on 30-09-2012 by John]
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Too add, legal age of consent is a slightly different issue, 16 probably isn't too far off though.
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quote:
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Are Ian and Spencer saying that because the child consented that it's ok?

I don't need to know his full history either, my post above covers why.

[Edited on 30-09-2012 by John]


Not exactly. But who says it is wrong? Rules made up by te government years ago?
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Its not an issue of right or wrong so much but more an issue of how right or wrong. Seeing a girl a week off her 16 birthday isnt really any worse than seeing her a week later.Yet its treated massively wrong. And even more so if its large news
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quote:
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Maybe the guy should be jailed though, clearly a couple of pieces short of a picnic.


Danger to the public?


Yes. She is a member of the public and he is a danger to her, maybe not on a physical level but anyone who takes someone out of the education system at that age is very wrong for doing so, further proving she is not old enough to make her own decisions because if she was thwn shed still be here!
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quote:
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Are Ian and Spencer saying that because the child consented that it's ok?

I don't need to know his full history either, my post above covers why.

[Edited on 30-09-2012 by John]


Not exactly. But who says it is wrong? Rules made up by te government years ago?


I've already said the age is pretty arbitrary, it's still well known and there has to be some age, what that is doesn't really make a difference to this topic.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by John
Maybe the guy should be jailed though, clearly a couple of pieces short of a picnic.


Danger to the public?


Yes. She is a member of the public and he is a danger to her, maybe not on a physical level but anyone who takes someone out of the education system at that age is very wrong for doing so, further proving she is not old enough to make her own decisions because if she was thwn shed still be here!
yet she could take herself out of it in a matter of days if her birthday is close
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yes, because thats the law

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