evilrob
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Don't you find overtime as you get used to this new world of apps for everything, you're actually using less? I used to regularly go through 20-30 apps per day, but my usage over the past 24 hours (looking at open apps in iOS) has been: BBC Weather, Google Chrome, Nike+ Move & Skype. I almost think it's kind of a fad, for me at least.
I agree with this. I had hundreds of apps on my iPhone, deleted them all, and didn't miss them at all.
Although I have all of those apps in the list above installed, that's largely to support the developers and contribute to the stats / their revenue / have an argument when people go, "urgh you dickhead - why have you got a Windows Phone, it hasn't got any apps". I actually only use a handful on a daily basis:
2Day (GTD task management - syncs with Windows Desktop version)
Cal (really nice Calendar app with nice Live Tile)
OneNote
OneDrive
Skype
Facebook Messenger
WhatsApp
Spotify
Fitbit
Nextgen Reader (RSS feeds)
Windows Phone Central (news/forum reader)
ProShot (Camera)
I don't "use: these as such, they just sit there running a live tile on my start screen which I look at several times a day:
HERE Drive+ (I have a Live Tile pinned which tells me how the traffic is looking on my commute / estimated duration of commute)
Analog Tile Clock
Blue Skies (Weather)
Insider Pro (Battery stats)
My EE (has live tile with allowance notifications etc)
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Originally posted by Russ
i dont know if still the case, but apps that were free or 50p on android, are £1.30 on windows
I haven't actually paid for a single Windows Phone app personally - through various promotions and competitions/giveaways, I amassed about £60 in Windows Phone Store credit so I've never really looked at the prices. They largely seem to be around a quid off the top of my head, maybe a bit more for premium titles like Runtastic.
[Edited on 06-08-2014 by evilrob]
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evilrob
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Wunderlist launched for Windows Phone today, looks pretty nice:
 
I had a good play with this yesterday, seems to do the job - if any Windows Phone-rs needs a good cross-platform list-making app with collaboration features (e.g. sharing a shopping list with the Mrs or something) - it's probably about as good as it gets.
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John
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You also don't get Google Now (I think) which gets better and better.
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evilrob
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You also don't get Google Now (I think) which gets better and better.
Don't need it - we have Live Tiles and Cortana; any data that Google Now can show - news, weather, stocks, RSS feeds, commute etc. can all be shown on your home screen or lock screen:
From left to right row by row:
Weather, Alarm, Clock
Windows Phone Central RSS Feed, Email (if I had any new emails the subject and part of the body would be shown)
Battery stats (configurable - can show other phone related stuff if you want), My Commute - if it were home time it would show me a smaller version of the screenshot below for commute time, congestion etc.)
Calendar with upcoming appointments, Stocks and Shares
News - shows the latest headlines on the reverse (it flips every few seconds), My remaining 4G allowance
(obviously I've blurred out my particulars)
[Edited on 06-08-2014 by evilrob]
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John
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Can it parse your email and tell you when you need to leave the house to catch a filght? Can it automatically learn when you leave for work and the route and automatically alert you when the traffic is busy and how much earlier you should leave?
Does it automatically take note of where you've parked the car when out shopping (of limited usefulness unless you are somewhere you don't know).
I've found it to be getting increasingly good.
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Russ
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does it use location based reminders?
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evilrob
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does it use location based reminders?
Cortana (which is the WinPho Siri equivalent) in Windows Phone 8.1 does, yes - I've ringfenced home, work and Tescos to remind me to do various things when leaving home, work or at the shop.
[Edited on 06-08-2014 by evilrob]
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evilrob
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Can it parse your email and tell you when you need to leave the house to catch a flight?
Don't know - never tried. I typically know when I need to leave the house to catch a flight. Cortana can parse your email for calendar appointments and the like, so I imagine it can probably do this as well.
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Can it automatically learn when you leave for work and the route and automatically alert you when the traffic is busy and how much earlier you should leave?
Yes - this is very useful.
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Originally posted by John
Does it automatically take note of where you've parked the car when out shopping (of limited usefulness unless you are somewhere you don't know).
Cortana may or may not do this, I typically know where I've parked my car. However, I do know that HERE Drive+ does this (i.e. if you've satnav'd somewhere you don't know, it will remember where you parked automatically).
[Edited on 06-08-2014 by evilrob]
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evilrob
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Here's a video of Cortana alongside Siri and Google Now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJodK56EsU
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evilrob
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And another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg8mjR1TCNs
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quote:
Originally posted by evilrob
quote:
Originally posted by kz
Don't you find overtime as you get used to this new world of apps for everything, you're actually using less? I used to regularly go through 20-30 apps per day, but my usage over the past 24 hours (looking at open apps in iOS) has been: BBC Weather, Google Chrome, Nike+ Move & Skype. I almost think it's kind of a fad, for me at least.
I agree with this. I had hundreds of apps on my iPhone, deleted them all, and didn't miss them at all.
Although I have all of those apps in the list above installed, that's largely to support the developers and contribute to the stats / their revenue / have an argument when people go, "urgh you dickhead - why have you got a Windows Phone, it hasn't got any apps". I actually only use a handful on a daily basis:
2Day (GTD task management - syncs with Windows Desktop version)
Cal (really nice Calendar app with nice Live Tile)
OneNote
OneDrive
Skype
Facebook Messenger
WhatsApp
Spotify
Fitbit
Nextgen Reader (RSS feeds)
Windows Phone Central (news/forum reader)
ProShot (Camera)
I don't "use: these as such, they just sit there running a live tile on my start screen which I look at several times a day:
HERE Drive+ (I have a Live Tile pinned which tells me how the traffic is looking on my commute / estimated duration of commute)
Analog Tile Clock
Blue Skies (Weather)
Insider Pro (Battery stats)
My EE (has live tile with allowance notifications etc)
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Originally posted by Russ
i dont know if still the case, but apps that were free or 50p on android, are £1.30 on windows
I haven't actually paid for a single Windows Phone app personally - through various promotions and competitions/giveaways, I amassed about £60 in Windows Phone Store credit so I've never really looked at the prices. They largely seem to be around a quid off the top of my head, maybe a bit more for premium titles like Runtastic.
[Edited on 06-08-2014 by evilrob]
It's now almost the end of the day and I also opened Google Maps, OneDrive, FileApp & Twitter so a total of 8 apps opened for a typical day, not bad I suppose.
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For adults a windows phone is fine, and if you don't mind waiting a while to get apps. But tbh that even happened on android. SkyGo app took about 6 months after iOS, which drove me crazy.
Can understand kids getting annoyed if all their mates are playing a game and they can't play it as there's not a version available yet.
But for grown ups, there does seem to be a suitable app for the things you need.
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evilrob
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Windows Phone - for adults. I like that! 
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Don't know - never tried.
That's the thing with Google Now, you don't have to try. It just does.
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evilrob
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Don't know - never tried.
That's the thing with Google Now, you don't have to try. It just does.
Let me rephrase - I haven't received an email with flight details since getting Windows Phone 8.1, ergo don't know how it would treat that information.
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Russ
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what about an ebay purchase? that lets you know when it was dispatched etc
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evilrob
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what about an ebay purchase? that lets you know when it was dispatched etc
eBay live tile does that.
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evilrob
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Are we getting the message yet? Live Tiles are a different way of getting data driven notification about stuff that matters to you.
I like the Live Tiles paradigm. You like Google Now. Both get the job done, neither is better than the other in my opinion.
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John
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Using the word paradigm isn't making it better. Google now just brings up stuff you need, when you need it. No installing apps to fit the different paradigm. Its not to do with the live tiles either, I actually quite like that idea. Its completely unobtrusive until its got something useful.
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Dom
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You can't even watch Youtube videos with Google Now..... http://instagram.com/p/rXDghCNd56 
[Edited on 06-08-2014 by Dom]
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Dom
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Google now just brings up stuff you need, when you need it.
From my experience it doesn't always work; certainly i've had location reminders that haven't alerted me and it's never automatically read my EasyJet emails and alerted me regarding flights.
Saying that, i'm not overly arsed with all of these mobile assistants - i'm happy to sort my life out myself Only really useful feature is the ability to send messages/texts/emails by voice command, handy to have in the car 
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evilrob
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You can't even watch Youtube videos with Google Now..... http://instagram.com/p/rXDghCNd56
In fairness, you can't watch telly with an Xbox One either:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/06/16/aaron-paul-xbox-one-advert-accidentally-turning-consoles-on
[Edited on 06-08-2014 by evilrob]
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evilrob
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I'm not overly arsed with all of these mobile assistants - i'm happy to sort my life out myself
^ this.
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Originally posted by Dom
Only really useful feature is the ability to send messages/texts/emails by voice command, handy to have in the car
Cortana does this quite well, to be fair. With the exception of almost always putting in the wrong its/it's, their/there/they're etc. and various other homophones but none of them are any good at that.
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evilrob
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Using the word paradigm isn't making it better. Google now just brings up stuff you need, when you need it. No installing apps to fit the different paradigm. Its not to do with the live tiles either, I actually quite like that idea. Its completely unobtrusive until its got something useful.
I'm sorry you found my use of the word paradigm offensive; it was simply the right word for the job.
You don't need to 'install' Live Tiles - Live Tiles are simply the "icons" for the apps. If you are a keen eBayer, for example, you would probably have the eBay app installed as par for the course. If you put that "icon" on your start screen, it will present you with timely, salient information. Even if you didn't want to use the Live Tile, you would get notifications in the notification centre.
I would say any application that parses your e-mail is fairly obtrusive.
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John
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The bits I really like are the traffic alerts and dispatch things are quite handy.
I don't do enough to be interested in the whole personal assistant thing but google just seems to get what I want to see.
I'd like to try windows phone but I do sometimes need the niche things so android does the job best so far.
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