ljames555
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Looking at a twin tuner box it gives me optional firmware (Is that just how the menu and how the box operates? )
Then flash drive what's that all about?
So plug this from my standard sky dish and with a sub and scan Id be set up for the equivalent of full sky hd package?
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John
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I use the team vix firmware, liked it more than the blackhole which is the other big one.
Flash drive is just a usb flash drive, used for installing the images and storing stuff on.
You'll also need a hard drive, which I've forgotten about until now because I've normally got one about, that will increase cost.
It also won't just work, there's fannying about involved.
At the end of it you have the full HD sky package though yes.
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Rob_Quads
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Has anyone here tried the cheaper F3/M3 SkyBoxes? I'm loath to spend £150/£200 on a box to try something out if I decide against it.
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John
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I've got an openbox S10. Unless the skyboxes have a decent EPG that's the main downfall against them.
I wasn't sure on the whole concept working which is why I got an openbox. After you've worked out that the card sharing bit works, the interface and EPG etc aren't even close to a more expensive box.
I understand your point though, that was exactly my thinking.
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Brett
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If you're just "testing" it out, seriously get an OpenBox for £40-50. My argument is that bang for buck, you can't go wrong with that. Vu+ is no doubt an awesome bit of kit, but obviously carries a premium. However, you can buy either knowing you'll likely lose hardly any money at all if you decide to sell.
Since I don't record at all (which you can anyway on an openbox but only the channel you're watching because of the single tuner), upgrading to a vu+ is basically £200+ extra for an EPG, that's my only gripe. If the vu+ was £100 there's no doubt I would've upgraded before now.
In reality, you will be happy with it, there's nothing to not be happy about, it's bloody £100 worth of Sky for a tenner or less.
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John
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Another thing about the openbox which really annoys me, but maybe not you (and not brett because he doesn't record) is that you can't record something and watch something previously recorded.
You can't start recording something then watch that from the beginning either, you have to have paused it.
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Brett
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That would be annoying 
I think the thing here is, if you're used to paid for legit Sky+, then you really need a vu+ as an Openbox will feel like a downgrade.
If you're like me and never been raped by Sky, an Openbox will likely tickle your fancy, at least for a short while.
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AlunJ
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I still have my sky sub for the time being, but the openbox is still cheaper than having a sports and movies subscription.
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Rob_Quads
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Exactly my thinking. I'm keeping Sky for now going for an Openbox/SkyBox to see what its like.
I would not use the box for recording to start with and realise the EPGs are not a patch on the Sky/Virgin ones but good enough to see how it all works.
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Brett
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I don't understand the logic in that case then.
What's not to like? What's on the screen is exactly the same as what you're paying a silly amount for currently. Buying an vu+ will pay for itself in a matter of months and not be a massive step down.
About the only thing I can see being compared is the sky box vs an openbox, in which case the openbox is gonna fall short for obvious reasons.
I don't think you do realise either because an Openbox doesn't have EPG. It has the button, but nothing displays apart from the odd channel. Now & next is about the best you're getting. So it's not a case of it not being a patch on Sky's, it literally isn't there. You want EPG you need a dreambox or a vu+, or a £200+ box putting it simply, otherwise whatever it is you're comparing simply wouldn't be fair.
[Edited on 05-12-2012 by Brett]
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WATSON
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Anyone heard the news about skys new updates? trying to stop cardsharing.. some interesting threads over on kings & digital k
Could it be the end of CS?
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John
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Oh well, if I get a few months amd then have to move back to sky I'll have covered my costs even if I couldn't sell the duo.
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WATSON
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Meant to be down before Christmas, time will tell I suppose.
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by WATSON
Anyone heard the news about skys new updates? trying to stop cardsharing.. some interesting threads over on kings & digital k
Could it be the end of CS?
This the HD pairing?
Have you got any links?
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Dom
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Is there any cable versions of this about? Can't put a dish up at my current place.
Not now, no.
Actually, it looks like you can cardshare using Kryptview or Starview boxes. Do a google as there are a handful of forums around that discuss it.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by WATSON
Anyone heard the news about skys new updates? trying to stop cardsharing.. some interesting threads over on kings & digital k
Could it be the end of CS?
This the HD pairing?
Have you got any links?
It is something to do with that Dom, only had a quick look at 1 thread in the general satellite section on digital kaos.
Not as easy as spoofing the hardware key of the box it's paired with to get around that?
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WATSON
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quote:
Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Dom
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Originally posted by WATSON
Anyone heard the news about skys new updates? trying to stop cardsharing.. some interesting threads over on kings & digital k
Could it be the end of CS?
This the HD pairing?
Have you got any links?
It is something to do with that Dom, only had a quick look at 1 thread in the general satellite section on digital kaos.
Not as easy as spoofing the hardware key of the box it's paired with to get around that?
Not sure John, I do know that a few servers on kings have closed there doors today due to this.
My server guy did announce today that he has something in the pipeline with virgin media as that's supposedly easily done with CS too.
Time will tell, There is talks that everything will be down before Christmas too.
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Dom
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Does anyone actually know what the issue is or any threads with actual technical info to the problem?
The CS-Kings/Digital Kaos threads (can't see anything on TechWatch) just seem to be full of ECM complaints, and in-turn a lot of users running around like headless chickens, but no real information.
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John
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I couldn't see a massive thread about it so couldn't be annoyed looking any further.
I'd imagine there would be a lot more chatter if all the scroungers (who I'm one of atm) were about to get cut off.
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Brett
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This news is alarming me guys.
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Whittie
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It'll be reet.
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Dom
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I'd imagine there would be a lot more chatter if all the scroungers (who I'm one of atm) were about to get cut off.
Exactly. Until someone posts some credible information rather than Chinese whispers then i wouldn't worry about it.
Still interested in knowing what this supposed 'HD pairing' is all about. I know Sky are asking for box/viewing card data but are they pairing the HD channels to cards/boxes? How does that work?
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Brett
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Thank fuck. I can continue scrounging for the time being
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John
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As a complete guess for the pairing, the same as the sports/movies etc maybe.
A card paired to one box will show some channels in another box, but not the premium ones, maybe just doing the same for HD.
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by John
As a complete guess for the pairing, the same as the sports/movies etc maybe.
A card paired to one box will show some channels in another box, but not the premium ones, maybe just doing the same for HD.
But surely that wouldn't make a difference to card sharing as you're already able to share the keys for premium channels (and they're paired to the card/box)?
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