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DaveyLC
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23rd Jun 16 at 08:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Some bellend just posted on facebook "Anyone voting IN today please un-friend me"..

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Steve that quote from Junker is about re-negotiation in the event of Britain voting Leave. He's saying a leave vote would be final and there's no going back.

Nothing to do with reforming the EU while we're in it.



I was correct

http://news.sky.com/story/1715890/eu-chiefs-referendum-warning-out-is-out
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Saw a mate lastnight who has been strongly an out all along and changed his mind over the last couple of days.

Was showing me a pie chart some stay at home mum had made.

It showed (all on one pie)

The UK contributions to the EU, and then the rest of it was what the EU spends everywhere, so the UK bit looked like a tiny little slice of pie.

I argued it should be one pie chart with all the incomings from everyone and another showing the outgoings, not one income and the rest outgoings.
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There is no way that was done by a stay at home mum either
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Probably crafted it from bits of old cereal boxes, that's their skill set, no wonder no one wants to employ them
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Ive seen that post too, blatantly not a stay at home mu, yet most people are too thick between the ears and believe everything they see on FB

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I think the Leave group have nothing to lose really.

I won't mind if it ends up we remain as that's all i've ever known anyway.
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We will end up remain
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
I think the Leave group have nothing to lose really.



Yep, Retired pensioners and unemployed racists have very little to lose
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Our school have voted

https://www.facebook.com/SteveJWilliams/videos/10154633174035730/
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Were you hiding?
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
Steve that quote from Junker is about re-negotiation in the event of Britain voting Leave. He's saying a leave vote would be final and there's no going back.

Nothing to do with reforming the EU while we're in it.



I was correct

http://news.sky.com/story/1715890/eu-chiefs-referendum-warning-out-is-out


No you weren't

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36599300

'Asked about the consequences of a Brexit vote, Mr Juncker made it clear there would be no scope for further negotiations over better terms to try to keep the UK on board'

'It is understood Mr Juncker was not referring to the prospect of future reforms in the event of the UK voting to remain in the EU, something Mr Cameron has insisted will continue, including in the key area of immigration and free movement

But those campaigning for the UK to leave the EU seized on the remarks, with Mr Johnson saying they had "given the game away'

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Done mine

Currently arguing with my mate who says I should've put the cross in pen as they can rub it out if it's in pencil....

Jesus christ

I did tell him the ballot is completely anonymous nimbus, so they could just print more off and do the vote again themselves, but he was sure they'll rub the cross out on my paper, as he read it on the Internet

These are the people I work with everyday...
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quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
Steve that quote from Junker is about re-negotiation in the event of Britain voting Leave. He's saying a leave vote would be final and there's no going back.

Nothing to do with reforming the EU while we're in it.



I was correct

http://news.sky.com/story/1715890/eu-chiefs-referendum-warning-out-is-out


No you weren't

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36599300

'Asked about the consequences of a Brexit vote, Mr Juncker made it clear there would be no scope for further negotiations over better terms to try to keep the UK on board'

'It is understood Mr Juncker was not referring to the prospect of future reforms in the event of the UK voting to remain in the EU, something Mr Cameron has insisted will continue, including in the key area of immigration and free movement

But those campaigning for the UK to leave the EU seized on the remarks, with Mr Johnson saying they had "given the game away'




"it is understood"

Understood by whom? oh the BBC that have been pushing a pro remain agenda from the start?

a quote is a quote, and it cannot be "understood" in any other way, it is quite clear

"So there will be no kind of renegotiation, nor on the agreement we found in February, nor as far as any kind of treaty negotiations are concerned."

That is a direct quote from Mr Juncker



[Edited on 23-06-2016 by Steve]
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Anyone who thinks the EU is going to be reformed in any meaningful way, is as deluded as those claiming europe will be a muslim continent by 2030
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I give up mate, you've lost it
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I might not bother voting tbh.

Neither side has convinced me with factual information of what will happen either way. I feel uninformed, and therefore not in a position to make a grounded decision.
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How can anyone provide factual information as to what will happen in the future.

Do you feel uninformed when the weather presenter gets it slightly wrong because they've been predicting the future.

You have to make a best guess at which one you feel provides the best prospects at any vote/referendum.
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Yeah, totally feel uninformed when it snows after I have decided to wear shorts for the day.

Or, in this case for me, neither side seems to appeal in terms of 'providing the best prospect' as you say.
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Still genuinely unsure.

Due to the fact leave is a big unknown gamble I am swaying to remain.
Was looking into the whole nhs situation but everyone seems to be talking shit and have holes in their arguments


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And staying isn't a gamble?

Tell us how the country will look whilst being part of the EU in 10 years time? oh you cant, therefore = a gamble.

You can point to the fact that we have been in it for x amount of years, I can point to the fact we were out of it a great deal longer before we joined

[Edited on 23-06-2016 by Steve]
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I feel it is better to of tried and failed, than to have never tried at all.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
And staying isn't a gamble?

Tell us how the country will look whilst being part of the EU in 10 years time? oh you cant, therefore = a gamble.

You can point to the fact that we have been in it for x amount of years, I can point to the fact we were out of it a great deal longer before we joined

u mad
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Can we get back to the real issues which are bendy cucumbers and the absolute FACT that there are 9 million turkeys on a boat at Dover waiting to be basted and enter the UK
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quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
Can we get back to the real issues which are bendy cucumbers and the absolute FACT that there are 9 million turkeys on a boat at Dover waiting to be basted and enter the UK



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