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Sooty
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Thanks Broster
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no worries, end of the day its all common sence, some people just have less of it than others, no names mentioned!
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lol, you mention common sense to sooty?

thats the funniest thing ive seen in this thread, apart from his 138.5bhp claim.

lmfao
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simon - so youre saying if you put your car on the rollers and it read high bhp you would say it inaccurate?? but if it read low you would say accurate yes?
i dont think so,
if the rr is accurate as by seing the times of the cars it seems to be then why is sootys not 138 bhp then??
what car do you have?
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
im the funniest thing ive seen in this thread


yes
Sooty
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
lol, you mention common sense to sooty?

thats the funniest thing ive seen in this thread, apart from his 138.5bhp claim.

lmfao


Its funny ya know... those who r'ber the similar thread for steve's 140bhp gti with the same mods as me last year

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simon l:
were u at the rollin road thingy?
you every experenced sootys car?
how can you make all these assumptions over the internet?
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
simon l:
were u at the rollin road thingy?
you every experenced sootys car?
how can you make all these assumptions over the internet?



he is compensating for somethin me thinks
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lol@kerry!im gunna check this in the morning, im off to bed!
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by broster
simon l:
were u at the rollin road thingy?
you every experenced sootys car?
how can you make all these assumptions over the internet?



he is compensating for somethin me thinks


what might that be kerry?
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brad> read the rest of the thread for your answers. your just repeating the same things they have been spouting.

ive had enough of "play time with kerry and sooty" for the night.

enjoy your barge kerry, and your 99@ the wheels GTI sooty.

your gti is only 7bhp off my VTR and i have more torque.
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quote:
Originally posted by sxi boy
quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by broster
simon l:
were u at the rollin road thingy?
you every experenced sootys car?
how can you make all these assumptions over the internet?



he is compensating for somethin me thinks


what might that be kerry?


perhaps u could ask his mum next time u pay her a visit
Sooty
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Simon L.... love to see you stay with chris's valver
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by sxi boy
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Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by broster
simon l:
were u at the rollin road thingy?
you every experenced sootys car?
how can you make all these assumptions over the internet?



he is compensating for somethin me thinks


what might that be kerry?


perhaps u could ask his mum next time u pay her a visit


but surely she wont be able to talk with her mouth full
Icy
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stil got that dent on ur boot simon?
Kerry
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quote:
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enjoy your barge kerry


i never mentioned anything about boats
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quote:
Originally posted by sxi boy
quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
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Originally posted by sxi boy
quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by broster
simon l:
were u at the rollin road thingy?
you every experenced sootys car?
how can you make all these assumptions over the internet?



he is compensating for somethin me thinks


what might that be kerry?


perhaps u could ask his mum next time u pay her a visit


but surely she wont be able to talk with her mouth full


perhaps u could fill her ass then instead and give the girl a break
sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
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Originally posted by sxi boy
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Originally posted by Kerry
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Originally posted by sxi boy
quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by broster
simon l:
were u at the rollin road thingy?
you every experenced sootys car?
how can you make all these assumptions over the internet?



he is compensating for somethin me thinks


what might that be kerry?


perhaps u could ask his mum next time u pay her a visit


but surely she wont be able to talk with her mouth full


perhaps u could fill her ass then instead and give the girl a break


hardly - she says she can take double up there
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
brad> read the rest of the thread for your answers. your just repeating the same things they have been spouting.

ive had enough of "play time with kerry and sooty" for the night.

enjoy your barge kerry, and your 99@ the wheels GTI sooty.

your gti is only 7bhp off my VTR and i have more torque.



this was done on different rollers. you can;t compare @ the wheel figures really. I have been on a few rollers and both ahve given differnet @ wheel figures but the samish fly figure
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quote:
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All the cars RR'd that day were pretty much standing cold still for at least 1 or 2 hours before they got on... all ran pretty much expected results.



so the cars were run when the oil was cold then
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quote:
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exactly sxi boy, you can't.

good gains are found from manifolds, sealed induction kits, etc...

not an open filter and decat back exhaust giving an 18bhp gain. lmfao.

venom> not at all. the @ wheels figures seem fine. i'm just saying sootys @ fly of 138bhp is innacurate.


thats assuming the car gave 120 as standard. the car was not tested as standard. how many VTS's gave 130hp when they were RR. quite a few. you could expect a peak increase of 8.5hp from a filter and decat exhaust on a cold cold day witht he bonnet fully open and cold air blowing over a cold engine
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quote:
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Originally posted by Kerry
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sooty> @ my last 1/4 mile event i ran a 15.8 @ 87.2mph

any reply to that? ha ha ha


its inaccurate

a saxo running 15.8 lmao


i feel u need to correct this to a saxi VTR

many vts' run 15s and some 14s with these mods

which reminds me - simon, u heard of a fella called craggy off ssc?? he runs same mods as sooty on vts and runs qtr's in the 14s



craggy had no interior and a exhaust manifold as well.
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quote:
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i couldnt care if these others seem to be accurate.

sootys figure @ fly isnt.



I think your losing this one Simon. sooty's figure was recorded at almost 7000rpm. the step down test will give a lot of drag from that RPM. is wheel figure may well have started to go down at this point and the drag just made look higher.
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
as luckyB said earlier.

28% is too high a transmission loss figure.

nearer 20% is more accurate, or what it should be.




no it is not. thre is no set figure. it depends on the car and the gear it was done in and the RR it was run on. at star performance I have had transmission loss of 30% and a figure of 160hp, on henry' s RR I got a 20% loss. both were done in 4th gear with hot cars. star gave a lower wheel figure but both gave a fly figure between within a few hp of each other
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quote:
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5 min on idle wont result in cold box oil



gearbox ain't going round in neutral Sooty

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