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Ditch
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18th Dec 03 at 10:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
3CM u crazy mudda fcuker!!
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Civic competes with astra turbo, Audi S4, Focus ST170/RS


audi s4....wise up
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quote:
Originally posted by Gambit
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
Civic competes with astra turbo, Audi S4, Focus ST170/RS


audi s4....wise up


Yes maybe that was a bit optimistic on my part there.
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Originally posted by RobboSRi
An then they still have 2 catch the mighty Civic

Ye, the CTR is still the best factory hot hatch out just now IMO

The C2 VTS will only be a 1.6 so you'd be expecting too much of it to be anywhere near the CTR.


Personally i would say the Leon Cupra R is the best factory hot hatch
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whats a clio 182?
Gambit
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the new version of the 172
Jason Iles
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by Lucky B
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Originally posted by RobboSRi
An then they still have 2 catch the mighty Civic

Ye, the CTR is still the best factory hot hatch out just now IMO

The C2 VTS will only be a 1.6 so you'd be expecting too much of it to be anywhere near the CTR.


Personally i would say the Leon Cupra R is the best factory hot hatch


Both lovely cars, personnally I'd have the Civic Type-R though not cause it's any better but just prefer them
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Saddam's spider hole had a hot hatch
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the new version of the 172


Needs a newer version. Friend of mine came round in her 172 Cup Clio yesterday. Less than a year old and already has had 2 cracked engine mounts and a blown head gasket.
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Originally posted by Gambit
the new version of the 172


Needs a newer version. Friend of mine came round in her 172 Cup Clio yesterday. Less than a year old and already has had 2 cracked engine mounts and a blown head gasket.


Ouch. The 182 has new exhaust system to give it 10bhp more, plus tweaks to the ECU
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The Seat Leon is turbo'd though*yawn*

N/A all the way!
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
just rumours. Its gonna have 125bhp, which is lame TBH. Will get wasted by the new Corsa GSi. Citroen need to release a fast hot hatch, not these styled pieces of trash.



Corsa GSi, whats that then?
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marc, it will be announced before you know it
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The Seat Leon is turbo'd though*yawn*

N/A all the way!


N/A all the way baby
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marc, it will be announced before you know it


.........i wont hold my breath
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so they have dropped the 16v TU52J engine then and gone for the 8v? I wonder where they have got the extra 20 horses from then?
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so they have dropped the 16v TU52J engine then and gone for the 8v? I wonder where they have got the extra 20 horses from then?


Chip??? maybe
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but in its original incarnation the 8v was 90bhp so thats 30 bhp on standard spec. Think they used different engine management for the 98,100 bhp versions, i know the same lump is in the rallye with 103bhp through a different cam/management. why would they use the 8v lump and have the hassle of tuning it to 120bhp when they could just use the newer 16v lump? I think autoexpress or whatever it was have got their facts wrong.
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I think autoexpress or whatever it was have got their facts wrong.


That sounds more likely
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They have used the same engine in both cars but tweeked it a bit from what i can see

Overall its just going to join the ranks of being a normal hatch with nothing special about it. Its well and truly NO WHERE near a hot hatch.

For the same sort of money you can get quite a few cars that are better IMO.

Was quite disapointed with the VTS would have thought they would have got thier finger out and put a 2.0l in to keep with the competition and try and attempt to get as many sales as the saxo but it looks like they have just nor bothered.
Tom
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ye4ah should have been a 2.0 imo

Will still sell but only on the back of the sucess of the saxo...
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the c2 vtr has 125bhp anyway
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The C2 VTR is NOT 125bhp.

The C2 VTR = 110bhp +sensodrive
The C2 GT = 110bhp + manual
The C2 VTS = 125bhp + manual
Marc
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So is the GT a stripped out model then?
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thast what there web site said when they first came out but they must have changed it all!

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