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Author tuning 1.4/1.6 16v motors
Keith Piper
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28th Dec 03 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've built a 1.4 16 valve circuit car, with 173 bhp (147 at wheels)
tazmaniac
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28th Dec 03 at 15:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what u done to it to get that out of it
Keith Piper
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28th Dec 03 at 15:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

SBD cams, throttle bodies, 4,2,1,manifold, and pistons. Fully ported and flowed head with stainless valves, SBD springs, caps and verniers. Ali flywheel, F15 box with straight cut Quaiffe gears and diff, 2 litre Astra clutch with a paddle centre plate.
All set up by SBD.
Now rebuilding with bigger cams, solid followers,and twin springs; should make at least 190 bhp.

DangerousDave16v
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28th Dec 03 at 17:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

holy shite
tazmaniac
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my thoughts exactly!
DP.
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I was looking at tuning my 1.6 engine (corsa gsi) but decided it would be more cost effective to put in a 20xe
broster
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quote:
Originally posted by DP.
I was looking at tuning my 1.6 engine (corsa gsi) but decided it would be more cost effective to put in a 20xe


depends what ur after, id rather have a tuned 1.6 than a 2.0ltr, for 4 reasons, you can get a 1.6 16v up to 2.0ltr bhjp, not quite torque, for cheap money, cheaper to insure a 1.6, a 1.6 will handle better in the long run, and a 1.6 will sell better than a 2.0ltr i believe, easier to put ot standard and sell tuning bits extra etc!

u also got your 2.0ltr set up quite cheap didnt you?

[Edited on 28-12-2003 by broster]
DP.
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well true... but at a later date i'll modify the 20xe and take it out of reach of what the 1.6 is capable of with sensible money. Insurane wasn't really a factor in the equation as i'll be paying £430 tpft and im not bothered about selling it either, will hang on to it and play with it

and as for "u also got your 2.0ltr set up quite cheap didnt you?" well im still in the middle of putting it in.. been having loads of problems but getting there slowly, the shite weather isn't helping much!
jr
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quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
when u having it fitted jr


as soon as possible, but mr hamilton spec has given me more ideas
jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Keith Piper
I've built a 1.4 16 valve circuit car, with 173 bhp (147 at wheels)


are u off mig m8
broster
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quote:
Originally posted by DP.

and as for "u also got your 2.0ltr set up quite cheap didnt you?" well im still in the middle of putting it in.. been having loads of problems but getting there slowly, the shite weather isn't helping much!


yeah noticed the amountr of probs ud been having by the number of posts in help zone lol! u no some1 i no, stokie dave?
DP.
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stokie dave? i have a mate called dave yea... thats probably him

and yea... ive got a mate helping me but he aint done a big block conversion before. Having almost done it once i would definately do things a bit differently and it would certainly be easier next time. I'll have to write up my experiences with the conversion for anyone else considering a 20xe lump up front
Bennn
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28th Dec 03 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by antscorsa
when u having it fitted jr


as soon as possible, but mr hamilton spec has given me more ideas


I can second that - after he took me for a spin round some twisties the other week
ive been on SBDs site making a very big shopping list
It needs significantly trimmed however
jr
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28th Dec 03 at 19:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ill allready have some sbd bits, i feel Tb are they forward however
miles
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Keith Piper - What sort of RPM are you going to? I imagin your also using steel rods and maybe crank?

Mines an everyday car and behaves like one

Andy, you've got to be breaking easily into the 13's at pod

Have you got an LSD? Im thinking about getting the quaife atb lsd but Im not sure if its worth the £500.
Andy
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Hi MIles - I have the Tran-X plate diff. A few notes cheaper then the Quaife LSD and seems to get round corners well enough. However, when it's fitted, there's no room for an elctronic speedo ring sensor, so unless you have a cable speedo, you'll need another speedo. The Quaife doesn't have this problem (I think)I'm not convinced that an LSD makes a huge difference from a standing start - eg in a quarter miler - but it certainly helps you to get the power down coming out of corners and on uneven road surfaces.
Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by Keith Piper
SBD cams, throttle bodies, 4,2,1,manifold, and pistons. Fully ported and flowed head with stainless valves, SBD springs, caps and verniers. Ali flywheel, F15 box with straight cut Quaiffe gears and diff, 2 litre Astra clutch with a paddle centre plate.
All set up by SBD.
Now rebuilding with bigger cams, solid followers,and twin springs; should make at least 190 bhp.




Keith - that's a superb figure for a 1.4. Can we expect to see your beastie at a meeting sometime in 2004?
Fad
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i agree thats amazing really spot on u got a torque figure for that?
ianofbhills
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
Hi MIles - I have the Tran-X plate diff. A few notes cheaper then the Quaife LSD and seems to get round corners well enough. However, when it's fitted, there's no room for an elctronic speedo ring sensor, so unless you have a cable speedo, you'll need another speedo. The Quaife doesn't have this problem (I think)



Confirmed you can still use the eloctronic speedo with the quife atb lsd as my speedo works fine with that set up.
jr
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can you get a quaife to match up to f13rc box
lee mitchell
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29th Dec 03 at 09:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im sure u can james
lee mitchell
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http://www.quaife.co.uk/index2.htm

jr
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cheers lee, now wonder if martin can get hold of one
lee mitchell
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not for the price for the f20 or f16
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