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Originally posted by sport16v
Would prefer a CTR for the money!


Ctr very nice, but not very usable.
Astra has 250nm!


Explain how you think a CTR is not usable?????



I suspect he means the spread of torque. the astra with being a turbo and having a flat curve of 250nm compared to the peak the CTR has of around 200nm requires less down shifting. the CTR makes around 130lb ft along a flat curve mid range.
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would the GSi be that much ahead of the CTR down the 1/4 mile then.....?

due to it producing peak power quicker?



GSi is slower down the 1/4 mile. gearing makes the most of the CTR's power.
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mini handles better....

holds its value better.....

& thats about it !!
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would the GSi be that much ahead of the CTR down the 1/4 mile then.....?

due to it producing peak power quicker?



GSi is slower down the 1/4 mile. gearing makes the most of the CTR's power.


ah riteee, interesting....
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Give me the GSi over the Mini, CTR, Leon etc etc etc etc.

A few of us watched a Astra GSi and a CTR racing around Silverstone last year, and the GSi beat it around the corners and the straights.
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Id take the new leon for my money, given the right driver it would rip a standard GSi apart
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granted its 2k more but for that money you get a trakker and a years subscription, more radical styling (GSi bores me!), and a more powerful engine.

Plus the only thing "Seat" about it is the shell
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Styling not radicle er yeah ok

IU like them, will be a good buy in a few years imo
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well it isnt, looks like any other Astra to me!
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Whats radical about seat styling then? (Not saying I don't like them but imo Astra is more noticable)
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Yeah Astra GSi in Arden Blue is top bollocks, I like the Leon but I prefer the Astra.
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you really think so?

probably just the fact that the Leon comes in Ovni yellow, and catches my eye every time!!

ermm, think the Leon sits on 18"s??

It looks alot more sporty that the base models IMO

and the astra..... well it just doesnt!
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like i said, lovely cars but my money would be spent elsewhere
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Yeah it sits on 18's but they're nothing special, astra is much nicer styling imo, but each to there own
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mini handles better....

holds its value better.....

& thats about it !!



so handles better and holds its value makes it a better car


what about people who want a spare wheel, or who want rear seats or who want a boot. mini does not seem better there. or maybe they don;t want to spend as much as 18K.
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Looks like any other astra - I dont think so.....




And look at these seats - NICE!!!


Definatly not like a normal astra
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Whats radical about seat styling then? (Not saying I don't like them but imo Astra is more noticable)



looks different from other models in the range by a lot. the GSi does not
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maybe the astra just has a "tame" image in my mind, as said, each to their own
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Whats radical about seat styling then? (Not saying I don't like them but imo Astra is more noticable)



looks different from other models in the range by a lot. the GSi does not


That's only because base model seats look pants,

and you can't make a seat look this good

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Originally posted by Ditch
mini handles better....

holds its value better.....

& thats about it !!



so handles better and holds its value makes it a better car


what about people who want a spare wheel, or who want rear seats or who want a boot. mini does not seem better there. or maybe they don;t want to spend as much as 18K.



I was definitely NOT defending the Cooper S, i was saying those are the only good points it has!

The gearing is too long, the car is not quick enough, its overpriced, its a BMW, its wank, its not my cup of tea

(cooper s works is quick tho)
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Originally posted by Tom D
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Originally posted by vibrio
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Whats radical about seat styling then? (Not saying I don't like them but imo Astra is more noticable)



looks different from other models in the range by a lot. the GSi does not


That's only because base model seats look pants,

and you can't make a seat look this good



^ droools!

but i dont see why you cant spend money on a Cupra R

Anyway if i was buying a motor I would want it to look good to me as standard

[Edited on 22-01-2004 by Ditch]
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Originally posted by Tom D
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Whats radical about seat styling then? (Not saying I don't like them but imo Astra is more noticable)



looks different from other models in the range by a lot. the GSi does not


That's only because base model seats look pants,

and you can't make a seat look this good




2.2 sri. not much different
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I think if you can get a Astra GSi for 13k then thats good value - they have them on network q for that with only 3000 miles which is really good in my opinion.....

Love the car - wish I could have one.
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all cars depreciate from new though
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http://www.carpages.co.uk/vauxhall/vauxhall_astra_gsi_part_4_13_11_02.asp

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