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Ben
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i would go for astra , ctr is now becomin a favourite with the asain drivers and r becoming very common .

but i wud still have any of them
Fad
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Gsi's are quicker than CTR's only marginally tho,

preffer a GSi after driving a CTR it was restless cos u have to rev the nuts of it to get it to anywhere, preffer more torque persoanally :thunbs:
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
The Astra is slower on everything (0-60, 1/4 mile etc) other than the top speed which is about 4mph more, the Astra wud be easily beaten on the qtr mile due 2 VTEC



the GSi is quicker to 60 is it not from most mag tests I have seen and slightly quicker in gear times as well. CTR faster above 60 and 1/4 mile and 0-100mph
sxi boy
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CTR - quicker round a track thn an astra gsi

last year autocar did a hot hatch test where they pitted all the top hot hatches (minus the focus RS) around rockingham and the CTR was fastest, followed by 172 cup, saxo vts, 106 gti, then the astra gsi

rather have v-tec power over ecotec
Patrick
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Astra Coupé Turbo is a lot better around a track than the Gsi.
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quote:
Originally posted by sxi boy
CTR - quicker round a track thn an astra gsi

last year autocar did a hot hatch test where they pitted all the top hot hatches (minus the focus RS) around rockingham and the CTR was fastest, followed by 172 cup, saxo vts, 106 gti, then the astra gsi

rather have v-tec power over ecotec



yes round a track. every day driving is done round a track. most peope that own these car race in a straight line either rom traffic lights or on the move. closest these cars get to tracks are coming off round abouts and thats a great way to show power between two cars which are evenly matched.
sxi boy
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from my experience CTR's arent that quick until they come into their v-tec's powerband in 3rd gear

my clio keeps up til about 70mph and then it foooks off
Patrick
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Driver's car would mean the Astra winning hands down.

What I love most about my car is the fact I only have to touch the accelerator and I'm off. Couldn't bare waiting til 7,000rpm
CraigyG
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GSi all the way
Keeley
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yep GSI i cant make my mind up what car i want but gsi is one of my favourites definately sticking with my vauxhalls
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go test drive them both. drive normally round down, have a blast and drive on a motorway. also drive over some rough road etc etc. make sure you have an extended test drive
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id have an ibiza cupra or leon cupra r over either of them anyway
CorsaLad
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i'd have the gsi. The CTR is torqueless and has to be thrashed to get any performance out of it.

I think the torque value is about 165 for the CTR, very poor considering its a 2.0
Ojc
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1st Apr 04 at 13:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You need not even ask me

I would not be seen dead in the new Saxo
Jules S
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Its actually 144 for the CTR.....

>click for link<

[Edited on 01-04-2004 by benny_h]
Robbo
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Why does no1 understand VTEC
Patrick
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Turbo or VTEC??? Ermm....

Hard chioce
sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
Turbo or VTEC??? Ermm....

Hard chioce


V-tec for me especially in 2.0 237bhp s2000 form

mechanical pornography
Robbo
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So if Civics r so shite then why are they faster than Leon CR/Astra GSi/S Works etc. which ALL have turbos
Patrick
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Spend £1500 tuning a CTR and £1500 spending a Astra. See which is faster!
Robbo
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Civic... turbo
Robbo
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Well, maybe a bit more than £1.5k but still... spend £3-4k an uve got 300bhp in a civic
Patrick
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A Civic that would go bang
Robbo
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Hardly... a VTEC engine has NEVER broken, regardless of tuning... cannot say the same of a Vauxhall
sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
Hardly... a VTEC engine has NEVER broken, regardless of tuning... cannot say the same of a Vauxhall


my mate managed to severely fuck up his DC5 integra by changing into 1st instead of 3rd at about 80mph


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