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AK
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i think the turbo isnt the bottle neck..... i think the fueling to provide the boost safely is lacking....

new fuel pump, reg, and a big FMIC is the way to go..

then,

bigger injectors
uprated pistons, bottom end....

moohahahhaha
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
Yawn..


Im asking a geniune question you plum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Nothing changes does it.

Considering you always claim to be in the know. You should know that tuning a turbocharged car is completely different to a n/a car. The first steps in tuning a turbo is to up the boost. When you say my 'spec', the only thing in my spec that will up power is the re-map, all the others are to help it breath better and to run cooler. My next mod is to get a custom front mount intercooler so that I can increase the boost furthur, equalling more power.
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
i think the turbo isnt the bottle neck..... i think the fueling to provide the boost safely is lacking....

new fuel pump, reg, and a big FMIC is the way to go..

then,

bigger injectors
uprated pistons, bottom end....

moohahahhaha



fuel system is fine I believe.

not sure of the turbo specs so can't comment. the VAG 1.8 with K04 KKK unit can make 270-280hp
Nismo
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im expecting over 325+ when mapped properly
Matt H
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your all gay apart from ross, adam, marc, tom + nath

[Edited on 14-05-2004 by SQUARE]

[Edited on 14-05-2004 by SQUARE]
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
im expecting anal when Marc come to visit



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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick

Nothing changes does it.

Considering you always claim to be in the know. You should know that tuning a turbocharged car is completely different to a n/a car. The first steps in tuning a turbo is to up the boost. When you say my 'spec', the only thing in my spec that will up power is the re-map, all the others are to help it breath better and to run cooler. My next mod is to get a custom front mount intercooler so that I can increase the boost furthur, equalling more power. [/color]


You gave it the yawn to a normal question!!!!!!!!!

I dont always claim to know everything, and i never have. You lot do that for me

Given my cars engine, and the fact i've never owned a turbo, why should i know whats best first???? I dont reply to turbo posts other than conversions. Not tuning!!

And I always thought just "wacking up the boost" was a bad idea as it will decrease the engine/turbo life?

[Edited on 14-05-2004 by Daimo B]
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quote:
Originally posted by Daimo B
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick

Nothing changes does it.

Considering you always claim to be in the know. You should know that tuning a turbocharged car is completely different to a n/a car. The first steps in tuning a turbo is to up the boost. When you say my 'spec', the only thing in my spec that will up power is the re-map, all the others are to help it breath better and to run cooler. My next mod is to get a custom front mount intercooler so that I can increase the boost furthur, equalling more power. [/color]


You gave it the yawn to a normal question!!!!!!!!!

I dont always claim to know everything, and i never have. You lot do that for me

Given my cars engine, and the fact i've never owned a turbo, why should i know whats best first???? I dont reply to turbo posts other than conversions. Not tuning!!

And I always thought just "wacking up the boost" was a bad idea?



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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick


it.

The first steps in tuning a turbo is to up the boost.



I have to disagree
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I agree turning up the boost on a standard engine is a bad idea.

It's better to make sure the engine can breathe better first and that there is sufficient cooling to cope with the increased heat levels. I do really need an intercooler at the moment due to my increased boost but I'm working on that one. After that though, the spec it's running should be fine and 260bhp would be a good point to stop.

I doubt I'd want more power than that, but if I decided to go furthur then I'd have to think about uprated parts like turbo, pistons, clutch, gearbox, gaskets, fuel pumps etc..
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i turn it up, blow it up, then make it safe to turn it up

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Originally posted by vibrio




I fail to see whats funny about me not owning a turbo? I like NA power.
And no, i can't say i remember ever saying how to tune a turbo engine?
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Theres still a safe limit as which the boost can be upped to though Damsel.

And the first mod should be the breathing in my opinion.
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Supra - i fitted a down pipe, front pipe, exhaust, filter, fuel cut defensor - boost was spiking up to around 25psi..... it blew

Skyline - im fitting the FMIC, uprated fuel sys before i up the boost

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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
i turn it up, blow it up, then make it safe to turn it up





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upping boost by a small amount will be fine on olfer cars but modern cars you really need them to be mapped as well.

mine is mapped, FMIC and I only run 1.5 psi more than standard but make 30hp more
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God i love you Ross.
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i upped the boost by x2, increased the fueling, and breathing and gained 200bhp
Nismo
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and upped the bill
AK
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6.5k or so for engine rebuild - inc hybrids, better fueling sys etc
1k for the complete exhaust
about 900 for all the controllers etc
250 for breathing
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yeah but i'm not gay so
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
6.5k or so for engine rebuild - inc hybrids, better fueling sys etc
1k for the complete exhaust
about 900 for all the controllers etc
250 for breathing
#

and they say Rotary is expensive
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6 new pistons, bores were scored, some new valves... 2 big hybrids, uprated fuel pump, injectors and regulator
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you really did that good and propper didnt you
AK
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yup

guy 2mins walk from where i stayed did worse to his at 190mph..... he now has the same spec as i did

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