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Its quite easy to spin the wheels, especially when the friction provided by the tyres is less than the central force required to negotiate the corner at the maximum possible speed, hence why understeer occurs. You lot think that because your car has so much bhp you can easily beat less powerful cars. The best way to win a race is to have the power down first, simple as. This is not easy in high power cars due to understeer and oversteer. But in a less powereful car, you can get the power down much earlier, pulling yourself out of the corner.
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Originally posted by RichiesCorsa
Its quite easy to spin the wheels, especially when the friction provided by the tyres is less than the central force required to negotiate the corner at the maximum possible speed, hence why understeer occurs. You lot think that because your car has so much bhp you can easily beat less powerful cars. The best way to win a race is to have the power down first, simple as. This is not easy in high power cars due to understeer and oversteer. But in a less powereful car, you can get the power down much earlier, pulling yourself out of the corner.
please stop 
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StuartVRS
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Originally posted by RichiesCorsa
Its quite easy to spin the wheels, especially when the friction provided by the tyres is less than the central force required to negotiate the corner at the maximum possible speed, hence why understeer occurs. You lot think that because your car has so much bhp you can easily beat less powerful cars. The best way to win a race is to have the power down first, simple as. This is not easy in high power cars due to understeer and oversteer. But in a less powereful car, you can get the power down much earlier, pulling yourself out of the corner.
Oh dear god
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Martyn
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someone please help him
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Dave1682
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Pulsar Gti-R - 220 bhp - 0-60 in 6.1
Corsa 1.4 16v - 90bhp - 0-60 in 10.5
Need we say anything else on the matter?
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StuartVRS
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Originally posted by Martyn
someone please help him
waaaaaaaaay beyond help mate
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Greg_M
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quote:
Originally posted by RichiesCorsa
The best way to win a race is to have the power down first, simple as. This is not easy in high power cars due to understeer and oversteer. But in a less powereful car, you can get the power down much earlier, pulling yourself out of the corner.
more commonly known as talking bollox. do you know anything about driving? the best way to win a race is a compromise of bigger power/ fater acc, and skill level to be able to navigate turns and the approprate speeds. the power difference in these two cars so so grate that even if he could harldy drive he would still leave you for dead. its like me trying to race my uncles rally spec WRX in a landrover. WILL NEVER HAPPEN no matter how bad driver they are
[Edited on 18-08-2004 by Greg12v]
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Martyn
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Originally posted by Martyn
someone please help him
waaaaaaaaay beyond help mate
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RichiesCorsa
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Yes the power difference is significant. But if my car can take the corner at 51mph, and the pulsar at 50mph, who is going faster? Im not saying my car is fast, it is far from it. It is pathetic on the straights. But on the corners is a different story.
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Originally posted by RichiesCorsa
This is not easy in high power cars due to understeer and oversteer. But in a less powereful car, you can get the power down much earlier, pulling yourself out of the corner.
My Corsa is a capable car, but the Astra is more powerful and thus quicker. Both only understeer if I severly over-cook it in to a bend and put the weight in the wrong place, lose any control I had over where the car is going and ruin any chance of exiting the corner quick.
Either he wasn't trying, or his car was broken, or he wasn't trying. I like playing with faster stuff when I'm out in the Corsa but I blame the other driver not having a go, not the superiority of the underdog.
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and are we missing the point of the 4wd here!!!
Your saying you could get the power down earlier (mid corner?) compared to a well balanced 4wd chassis.... hmmmm
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StuartVRS
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quote:
Originally posted by RichiesCorsa
Yes the power difference is significant. But if my car can take the corner at 51mph, and the pulsar at 50mph, who is going faster? Im not saying my car is fast, it is far from it. It is pathetic on the straights. But on the corners is a different story.
by the time you get to corner 1, he is already at corner 5, you may be 1mph faster in a corner, but he is priobably near enough 80mph faster down the straights. Do the maths
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Greg_M
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Originally posted by RichiesCorsa
Yes the power difference is significant. But if my car can take the corner at 51mph, and the pulsar at 50mph, who is going faster? Im not saying my car is fast, it is far from it. It is pathetic on the straights. But on the corners is a different story.
the pulsar would be taking to corners better than you. 4wd compared to fwd is no compotition.
and as for the speed of cournering, even if you took it 10mph quicker than him, it wouldnt matter as he would be going 40mph+ faster than you on average anyway. so please STFU
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Martyn
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omg your corsa does 51mph
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corsa120
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leave the lad alone, could be the lad in pulser cant drive hence making richie the better driver
dont no why some ppl laugh all the time I WAS AT A DRIFT WEKEND AT SILVERSTONE NOT SO LONG AGO WITH A RACE WHICH HAD NISSAN 200SX SOME WITH LIKE 350 BHP+ AND SMALLER ONES WITH LIKE 200BHP AND ALL THE LESS POWERED ONES WERE QUICKER ROUND THE TRACK BECAUSE THEY COULD GET BETTER TRACTION.
i know its not same scenario but.... point is the same ive met some of my m8's in shitty 1.4 orions and they have took bends incredibly quick while on standard suspension, maybe ritchie is just a nutter driver on the limit, and if u are driving rounds scottish country roads that ive experienced the pulser would not get ahead that much as there are no straights really just windy roads anyways       
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RichiesCorsa
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I realise i have come across as a nob, but i dont really care. The only two comments that have made sense have been made by ian and adam. It was trying, as as soon as we came out the corner it would rapidly pull away from me. He took the racing line through most of the corners. I think he was trying considering it was a sunday afternoon on a road with oncoming traffic. If he wasnt trying would he risk his car by doing this?
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Martyn
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Originally posted by corsa120
leave the lad alone, could be the lad in pulser cant drive hence making richie the better driver
dont no why some ppl laugh all the time I WAS AT A DRIFT WEKEND AT SILVERSTONE NOT SO LONG AGO WITH A RACE WHICH HAD NISSAN 200SX SOME WITH LIKE 350 BHP+ AND SMALLER ONES WITH LIKE 200BHP AND ALL THE LESS POWERED ONES WERE QUICKER ROUND THE TRACK BECAUSE THEY COULD GET BETTER TRACTION.
i know its not same scenario but.... point is the same ive met some of my m8's in shitty 1.4 orions and they have took bends incredibly quick while on standard suspension, maybe ritchie is just a nutter driver on the limit, and if u are driving rounds scottish country roads that ive experienced the pulser would not get ahead that much as there are no straights really just windy roads anyways
we have another one
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Greg_M
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Originally posted by corsa120
leave the lad alone, could be the lad in pulser cant drive hence making richie the better driver
dont no why some ppl laugh all the time I WAS AT A DRIFT WEKEND AT SILVERSTONE NOT SO LONG AGO WITH A RACE WHICH HAD NISSAN 200SX SOME WITH LIKE 350 BHP+ AND SMALLER ONES WITH LIKE 200BHP AND ALL THE LESS POWERED ONES WERE QUICKER ROUND THE TRACK BECAUSE THEY COULD GET BETTER TRACTION.
i know its not same scenario but.... point is the same ive met some of my m8's in shitty 1.4 orions and they have took bends incredibly quick while on standard suspension, maybe ritchie is just a nutter driver on the limit, and if u are driving rounds scottish country roads that ive experienced the pulser would not get ahead that much as there are no straights really just windy roads anyways
drift tracks are oiled for god sake, the whole point of drifting is stlye not speed. you can STFU too
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I'll be totally honest - I've raced a mate in a Pulsar GTi-R a few years back. He was the worse driver I've ever met, regularly crashed, couldn't drive round a corner for toffee, had no idea where the weight was and didn't even know what gear to be in. It was a fun race but I'm not going to pretend that I won!
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StuartVRS
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. He took the racing line through most of the corners.
wtf since when did the public road have 'racing lines'
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Martyn
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olny RichiesCorsa can see these special lines
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Greg_M
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Originally posted by corsaCsxi
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Originally posted by RichiesCorsa
. He took the racing line through most of the corners.
wtf since when did the public road have 'racing lines'
that'll be his imagination, think he means he was going onto the other side of the road which is naughty
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are you really sure he was trying i somewhat dont think he was twat ,
If it was AS close as you say then he was probally playing with you , i get this all the time little Nobs like your self thinking that you a chance i dont even bother , yet there giving it som much and think that there great and keeping up yet im just driving normally
still laughing 4wd v corsa 
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StuartVRS
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Please, tell me, will you be Coulthards replacement next year? You sound like one hell of a driver.
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Martyn
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I love this thread
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