J da Silva
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Visible your talking about basic mechanics though, what about engineering minded folks like myself.
not that im saying im doing 4x4 im just saying thats all
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ed
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I'd probably think that some kind of spaceframe would sort out the handling problems, and most of the other problems you would encounter when building a 4WD car out of a FWD shell...
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timrud_
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I talked to the guys that own that standard wheeltrimmed light purple corsa that does 13.1's, and they seemed to think they could knock a Corsa into 4x4 easy. Just one of the guys has to use that corsa every day, and didnt wantt o loose the use of the heaters (which they thought they would loose)
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Siberia
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alot of people say to weld in the caly floor so that u can bolt the transfer box on and all the sh*t needed.
by doing this though are u not opening the corsa up to all the problems the cally had with its TXB.
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Teddy
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My previous Calibra Turbo handled great with the 4x4 - really could throw it into anything and it done so well for a big car
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Teddy
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Courtenay 4x4'd a mk3 astra about three years ago and they vowed they would never ever do it again - the fully working system cost them sonething stupid
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big eck
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Originally posted by Teddy
Courtenay 4x4'd a mk3 astra about three years ago and they vowed they would never ever do it again - the fully working system cost them sonething stupid
Theres a guy on Mig who has done this very thing using 2 2ltr 8v turbo engines
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Ditch
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aint that running one engine for front wheels, and one for the rears?
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timrud_
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I know somebody that is 4x4'ing a MK3 Astra at the moment, its not cheap, but the results should be VERY impressive!
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Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by Teddy
Courtenay 4x4'd a mk3 astra about three years ago and they vowed they would never ever do it again - the fully working system cost them sonething stupid
Theres a guy on Mig who has done this very thing using 2 2ltr 8v turbo engines
This was running one engine hence longer props etc.... Done the correct why.
2 engines is cheating - lol i have seen the Mk3 Astra you are talking about.
The guy at AMD cut the floor of a knackered Cav Turbo and put it onto a Mk3 Astra Van lengthed the Wheel base etc - used the whole VXL TXB system - with the turo engine as well and used it to tow his RS2 Rally car - mad git! 
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J da Silva
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problems await those who bodge the job up quickly, you can't expect to just throw it all together, it takes planning and organising certain jobs/tasks in the correct order
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bradfincham
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as ive said before, of you can gte the 2 engines to run perfectly togethor then youre onto a winner! Will be smart just follow the eds nova much the same idea.
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ed
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But then you have a 4WD car that can only go in a straight line. I thought the whole point in 4WD was to increase performance of the vehicles handling. Not loose it?
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J da Silva
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Originally posted by bradfincham
as ive said before, of you can gte the 2 engines to run perfectly togethor then youre onto a winner! Will be smart just follow the eds nova much the same idea.
hydraulic clutches 
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timrud_
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The EDS Nova does handle quite well though!
The MK3 4x4 Astra *might* be done for trax, its red and will have some crap wheels on if its done, so keep an eye out!
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Siberia
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how the hell do ya sort out the gear linkage with 2 engines.....
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J da Silva
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Originally posted by timrud_
The EDS Nova does handle quite well though!
The MK3 4x4 Astra *might* be done for trax, its red and will have some crap wheels on if its done, so keep an eye out!
will's no mug, knows his bananas alright.
by the way nice motor, loving your car didn't realise it was you till my sister pointed you out, gave you a flash of the hazards if you noticed 
[Edited on 02-09-04 by VenomTurbo]
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timrud_
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Yep I saw the flash of the hazards
Very nice pop and bang LOL. Was it a big misfire? Sounded good LOL
Gear linkages for 2 engines are not hard to fabricate. Another area Will seems to excell in.
Venom you should see the pipework for the Astra! Work of art! I'll get some pics on my phone if I can next time I'm down.
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big eck
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Isnt the lad thats doing the astra from Ayr in Scotland??
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timrud_
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Nope, the Astra I'm on about is from Sheffield.
Single engined, 4wd!
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J da Silva
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quote:
Originally posted by timrud_
Yep I saw the flash of the hazards
Very nice pop and bang LOL. Was it a big misfire? Sounded good LOL
Gear linkages for 2 engines are not hard to fabricate. Another area Will seems to excell in.
Venom you should see the pipework for the Astra! Work of art! I'll get some pics on my phone if I can next time I'm down.
only a little one, the car was quite cold, but sister was late for college so didnt have time to warm the car, my car looks shite though but its the only way i can attract a race from the scoobs and stuff
i need to speak to or see will shortly, as i need my other LET mapping with its new box of tricks.
bring on the astra pics i love nosey'ing at technical shit like that
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timrud_
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Dunno if I'll get down tonight, still waiting for Andy to pick me up!
Would of been good to compare the cars on the motorway or something?
Best bet is to pop down to see Will, getting them to answer the phone is a feat in itself!
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Originally posted by timrud_
Dunno if I'll get down tonight, still waiting for Andy to pick me up!
Would of been good to compare the cars on the motorway or something?
Best bet is to pop down to see Will, getting them to answer the phone is a feat in itself!
hehe i just remembered tim took me out in his corsa - all i can say is *GRIN*
amazing stuff, top lad too!!!!
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
Courtenay 4x4'd a mk3 astra about three years ago and they vowed they would never ever do it again - the fully working system cost them sonething stupid
aye, i remember reading an article about this and from memory it was a figure of around 20k (not 100% sure on this btw)....which isnt cheap
VT - aye, i have a basic understanding of how it would go together (from reasearch etc), but its not as easy as you seem to be saying. Its not a weekend job, like popping a 2lt into a corsa, it would take a good month or more solid working on it to get it finished. And add the cost for the whole project, its pretty much a pointless to do to a corsa, hence why no one has done it (although i remember posting a thread ages ago and someone said there friend was building one, but ive yet to hear anything on that though).
However, wasnt courtenay going to build a kit that you could get? 
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