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Jambo
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7th Sep 04 at 19:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jr
when lotus were going under, kia bought the rigths off them to produce the elan, indirectly taking control of the brand, while this was happnign gm bought lotus out

kia is owned by hyundia, who are owned by damiler crylser

only in 1996 on October 31 did the Malaysian multinational DRB HICOM announces that it has taken a majority shareholding in the Lotus


Put that in your pipe and smoke it
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7th Sep 04 at 19:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i thank you
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Quick search on Google for : 'Lotus financial history'

http://www.histomobile.com/histomob/presmark.asp?chat=53&lan=2

The years1980

Excel (1982)
In 1981, Colin Chapman died suddenly due to heart attack. Lotus got into financial trouble and sold 25% stocks to Toyota in 1984. Since then the Japanese giant learned the multi-valve engine technology and put it into mass production. 4 years later, Toyota left and Lotus was completely took over by GM.

GM spent some 40 million dollars to the development of the new Elan Mk II, hoping it to pump the volume to 3,000 cars annually. However, the little roadster went to the wrong direction - a front-wheel-drive configuration, a small capacity turbo engine and an overweight body. All of these conflict with Chapman’s philosophy. Most important is that the little Lotus was very expensive compare with the Japanese competitors, most notably is Mazda MX-5.

The years1990

Elan (1990)
The car sold poorly, thus GM pulled out in 1993 and sold Lotus to Italian tycoon Romano Artioli who had already revived Bugatti.

The white-hair man did little to help Lotus. He did approved the Elise project and donated this name after his grand daughter. However, everybody would have approved this low cost project under such financial condition. The Elise was proved to be a great success, thanks to its aluminium chassis and conformation to Chapman’s principle - enhance performance through lightness. However, Artioli got into financial trouble as his Bugatti bankrupted. He sold majority shares to Malaysian car maker Proton in 1996.

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7th Sep 04 at 19:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it fails to mention the very important fact the kia bougth out the rights to the elan brand in there though
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7th Sep 04 at 19:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

We were talking about the ownership of Lotus, not the rights to the elan brand!

Kia is Korean, whereas Proton is Malaysian. Your previous post says "only in 1996 on October 31 did the Malaysian multinational DRB HICOM announces that it has taken a majority shareholding in the Lotus "
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7th Sep 04 at 19:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have a look at this. I'm not trying to say you are wrong.
http://www.robietherobot.com/storm/lotus_elan_m100.htm
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right toyota owned lotus

left them

gm own lotus

relise its not worth it

itallian own lotus

relises that its not gonna make any money, sells the brand, and also the tooling to kia to make the elan, whilst still keeping the lotus name, but not developing any cars

the lotus brand deal with kia expires, but they continue to produce a version of the m100, also near enougth the time italian bloke decides to sell up,

DRB HICOM buy the contolling stake in lotus, who also own the controlling stake in proton and pertonus

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Hooray!

Nice one.
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im not saying your wrong either, amybe it would have been better to say the brand was sold to kia, while the name kept by the italian bloke
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7th Sep 04 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah maybe m8.

Atleast that's over with. Until someone else thinks they know better of course.
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sri_93
GM spent some 40 million dollars to the development of the new Elan Mk II, hoping it to pump the volume to 3,000 cars annually. However, the little roadster went to the wrong direction - a front-wheel-drive configuration, a small capacity turbo engine and an overweight body. All of these conflict with Chapman’s philosophy. Most important is that the little Lotus was very expensive compare with the Japanese competitors, most notably is Mazda MX-5.


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