BeArDy
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Originally posted by fadscorsa
i am going for tb's as its just different sounds awsome, no turbo lag and if mapped properly can be used as an every day car  and as i am having my XE fully rebuilt i thought why not?
Once you've heard TBs at 8500rpm, that's reason enough 
throttle bodys
easy to get the power down, 230bhp of traction(TB) or 300+bhp of Spin (turbo)
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Nismo
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throttle boddies on a Intergra type R or S2K must sound awsome 
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Robbo
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I have heard them on a CTR and oh yesh they sound mazin 
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ed
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Originally posted by ljames555
how much do TB cost for a 2.0 with correct mapping and fitted ?
£1800 for a DIY kit off of Alpha - http://www.webcon.co.uk
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bradfincham
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if you see the videos of andys 1.6 on tb's, that just says it all!
But large costs involved whereas trubo you can just buy the eds chip larger intercooler and yore talking pahse 3.5 320 bhp odd!!
But again traction is a major issue!
And nismo - if dads kit car is done in time for japfest next year you can hear an s2000 on throttle bodies
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ed
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Hmmmm.... I'm tempted to leave my 20XE in the shed for a while longer and save up for carbs or TB's THEN fit it
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timrud_
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200bhp of throttle bodies and 100% grip = 13.1 1/4 mile! (Thats the purple standard looking one that is doing the rounds at the minute, though they got a slip doff and drag slicks)
Mine = more power, a fook load of spin and only a 13.5! (No slip diff and wank tyres.)
Lession. Grip at least as important as power!
TB's seem a very good option!
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BeArDy
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Both 
or is that just me being greedy 
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timrud_
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Yes your greedy!
Did you fit the engine in the bottom one?
Any advantages from going longtitudual?
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bradfincham
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tim thats in a hot rod by the looks of things to get the rear wheel drive setup!
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ed
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Originally posted by timrud_
Yes your greedy!
Did you fit the engine in the bottom one?
Any advantages from going longtitudual?
So you can use a T28 (or was it 20?) gear box and have rear wheel drive
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Siberia
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beardys v6 on trottle bodies would be super cool i would think
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Andy
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Originally posted by Siberia
what internal work should be done to accomadate TB's on a 1.6 16v (c16xe)....
If you just bolt on TBs and engine management to the standard engine (should give you around 155-160bhp) and restrict your rev limit to 7500rpm, then all you really need is a set of uprated rod bolts
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ed
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Would you be able to up the rev limiter a bit if you were to use stronger rod bolts on a 20XE? Or would you need to have btter conrods too? It will be running carbs or TB's...
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Andy
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A small increase in revs will only require uprated bolts, although I'm not a 2L expert I'm afraid. However, only worth upping rev limit if you're making the power higher up the rev range (as you would be if you switched to carbs/TBs).
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jr
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why not go tb's and a turbo
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Matt H
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Originally posted by jr
why not go tb's and a turbo
reason 1 - £££
reason 2 - £££
reason 3 - $$$
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jr
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but if you had the £ i would do it, 2.1 LET running TB's on EDS phase 5 phototype chip
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Matt H
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Originally posted by jr
if i had the £££ i'd be a woman called frieda 
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
A small increase in revs will only require uprated bolts, although I'm not a 2L expert I'm afraid. However, only worth upping rev limit if you're making the power higher up the rev range (as you would be if you switched to carbs/TBs).
ive just bought a C16XE engine to go into my car... it has mantzell power box already fitted...... would just sorting out the rod bolts and idlers be enough for a 7000-7500 RPM limit... the engine has about 90k on it..
plans for the start of next year are to fully rebuild it something like yours... but i just dont wanna feck it up in the mean time....
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Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by matt h
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Originally posted by jr
if i had the £££ i'd be a woman called frieda
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LukeGSi
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 Mr Fad
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Fad
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why hello lukey
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jr
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GTF northen boy 
[Edited on 15-09-2004 by jr]
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Fad
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norwich hardly constitutes northen you monkey
altho i belive his mother ship belongs to a northen origin
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