broster
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for example..................
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For example people having an argument over which car will "cain" another when there is a very small power difference. Torque has not even been mentioned for a start. Not to mention driver skill or handling capabilities of the different cars.
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broster
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they will be pretty even on the old handeling front id say.
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Claire
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Originally posted by broster
they will be pretty even on the old handeling front id say.
Perhaps (i would actually tend to agree with you on this) but that was just an example. If you want to know which will win in a straight line then just go and look in a site where the vehicles have been tested by people with similar skill and have published figures. When it actuallty comes to it there are many different factors involved and for people to say one will "rape" another is just silly. If we were talking about an Evo 6 'v' a daihatsu copen then fair enough - it would rape it but ffs we are talking very similar cars performance wise.
[Edited on 28-11-2004 by Claire G]
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Joff
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Originally posted by broster
they will be pretty even on the old handeling front id say.
I suspect no comparison will actually be carried out under test conditions, so everything is in fact bullshit.
Fiesta will beat the VTR until 30mph, then the VTR will pull away to 42mph, then when it comes to a corner, the Fiesta will rev to 5,800rpm in 3rd and hit 65mph then out of no-where the Corsa comes flying past and saves the day.
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Claire
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Originally posted by broster
they will be pretty even on the old handeling front id say.
I suspect no comparison will actually be carried out under test conditions, so everything is in fact bullshit.
Fiesta will beat the VTR until 30mph, then the VTR will pull away to 42mph, then when it comes to a corner, the Fiesta will rev to 5,800rpm in 3rd and hit 65mph then out of no-where the Corsa comes flying past and saves the day.
 I stand corrected 
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Joff
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What about my mates old Raleigh Lizard with 18 gears vs my Marin Palisades Trail with 21 gears, but was stolen 4 years ago?
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Joff
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Kellogs Fruit and Fibre with Semi-Skimmed milk vs Quaker Oatso Simple (syrup) with Skimmed milk?
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Claire
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What about my mates old Raleigh Lizard with 18 gears vs my Marin Palisades Trail with 21 gears, but was stolen 4 years ago?
Well again down to rider skill I would say. but as the Raleigh willl way about 200kg's more than the marin I would go with the marin
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broster
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obviously if its stolen its the far more desirable hence faster option.
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Claire
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Kellogs Fruit and Fibre with Semi-Skimmed milk vs Quaker Oatso Simple (syrup) with Skimmed milk?
Kellogs Fruit and Fibre with Semi-Skimmed milk - no contest 
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Originally posted by Claire G
For example people having an argument over which car will "cain" another when there is a very small power difference. Torque has not even been mentioned for a start. Not to mention driver skill or handling capabilities of the different cars.
You can get tae fook with your torque chat. Both are naturally aspirated 1600cc 4 cylinder engines. I dont think they were built to give out massive torque, more like high end power. Talking about the differences in torque is like talking about the differences between joff's bicycles. BTW, i used to have a Raleigh Extreme (green) with the wheel trims 
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i love it when girls try to talk cars, it just dont happen
[Edited on 28-11-2004 by GSiSteve]
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i used to have a black wolfrace bike, with a black box that used to talk and make noises when you pressed the button, the wheels went rusty and the box stopped talking so i got angry with it and threw it in my grandads fishing lake
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is the early vtr 90bhp and the late ones 100?? mate has an early one and i could keep up with it in my 8v sri when it was on 16's
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by Claire G
For example people having an argument over which car will "cain" another when there is a very small power difference. Torque has not even been mentioned for a start. Not to mention driver skill or handling capabilities of the different cars.
You can get tae fook with your torque chat. Both are naturally aspirated 1600cc 4 cylinder engines. I dont think they were built to give out massive torque, more like high end power. Talking about the differences in torque is like talking about the differences between joff's bicycles. BTW, i used to have a Raleigh Extreme (green) with the wheel trims
I don't think they were built to be raced by chavs to see who has the biggest dick but it seems to happen. If you are going to talk about who has the fastest hair dryer then please do it properly and include all the factors. Otherwise kindly STFU and stop talking shit
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Claire
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Originally posted by GSiSteve
i love it when girls try to talk cars, it just dont happen
[Edited on 28-11-2004 by GSiSteve]
I feel I have more knowledge and experience than a large number of people on this site so try not to be sexist in future please 
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Originally posted by GSiSteve
i used to have a black wolfrace bike, with a black box that used to talk and make noises when you pressed the button, the wheels went rusty and the box stopped talking so i got angry with it and threw it in my grandads fishing lake
Was that black with red bits or black with blue bits?
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Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Claire G
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Originally posted by GSiSteve
i love it when girls try to talk cars, it just dont happen
[Edited on 28-11-2004 by GSiSteve]
I feel I have more knowledge and experience than a large number of people on this site so try not to be sexist in future please
Get your tits out.
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by GSiSteve
i used to have a black wolfrace bike, with a black box that used to talk and make noises when you pressed the button, the wheels went rusty and the box stopped talking so i got angry with it and threw it in my grandads fishing lake
My mate had one of those, and we used to ride it into pine trees at high speed, it was mostly plastic so was very light 
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Originally posted by Claire G
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Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by Claire G
For example people having an argument over which car will "cain" another when there is a very small power difference. Torque has not even been mentioned for a start. Not to mention driver skill or handling capabilities of the different cars.
You can get tae fook with your torque chat. Both are naturally aspirated 1600cc 4 cylinder engines. I dont think they were built to give out massive torque, more like high end power. Talking about the differences in torque is like talking about the differences between joff's bicycles. BTW, i used to have a Raleigh Extreme (green) with the wheel trims
I don't think they were built to be raced by chavs to see who has the biggest dick but it seems to happen. If you are going to talk about who has the fastest hair dryer then please do it properly and include all the factors. Otherwise kindly STFU and stop talking shit
But torque isnt a fucking factor you dumb ass!! In a 5.7 litre V8 chevy lump, torque is a factor, not in a pissy little 1.6 4 cyl. Yes i agree that torque is very useful, but the amounts we are talking about are hardly worthy of a mention. You are the one talking shit. Besides, how much money did Citroen spend aiming the C2 towards the boy-racer market after the appeal of the Saxo as the most chavy raced car in english history. So yes, they were built to be raced by chavs
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cybercock being abusive over the internet again, how big and clever
of course torque is a factor anyway, if the 2 cars where the same bhp, and the same weight, with the same driver, the one with the larger torque would be quicker - fuckface 
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Cyber nob are you still shagging kangeroos or are they humping your ass too now,you obnoxtious wanker.
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Marc
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And how is torque not a "fucking factor" as you so nicely put it?
We're talking about two cars that are pretty similar in power outputs and engine size only one is an 8v and the other is a 16v. Hence differant power and torque distribution. So when comparing these two cars of course torque will be a factor you fool.
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