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Author On the quarter Mile.. LET or TB's XE?
Ditch
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17th Dec 04 at 11:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
everyone that ran seemed to be happy with it


thats probably cos it gave good times!


has this XE corsa been stripped out?
it would be possible to run that time if it went on a diet and had a good LSD
Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
everyone that ran seemed to be happy with it


thats probably cos it gave good times!


has this XE corsa been stripped out?
it would be possible to run that time if it went on a diet and had a good LSD



when it ran that time is was completely stripped out ...... only had 1 bucket seat and quaife LSD....

its since been resprayed and a gsi kit, interior and leccy windows added

[Edited on 17-12-2004 by Siberia]
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Sometimes mystifies me why people that own FWD cars are so keen on the 1/4 mile as a measure of their performance....

There are RWD/4x4 cars that can run the same time as me or a tiny bit quicker, and I'd be gutted if on the road they got near me!

[Edited on 17-12-2004 by timrud_]
Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by timrud_
Sometimes mystifies me why people that own FWD cars are so keen on the 1/4 mile as a measure of their performance....

There are RWD/4x4 cars that can run the same time as me or a tiny bit quicker, and I'd be gutted if on the road they got near me!




I think its fair to say that the standing 1/4 mile is a good indication of how quickly a car can accelerate.
iceman
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quote:
Originally posted by deanmcreynolds26
quote:
Originally posted by iceman
im just wondering wot mine would be 1/4 at the mo running 15" with min 204bhp could be more 210bhp once run in


think you need to get down the strip with Timrud..
would be good to see that and compare the both?!?

wat u doin for traction, u got a diff or anything?!


Nothing yet for traction may look at a quaiff (SP) diff
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
im just wondering wot mine would be 1/4 at the mo running 15" with min 204bhp could be more 210bhp once run in


Could be less than 204. 204 is factory figures, if you use a sock for an air filter like Ojc, you could be down on as much as 60bhp!
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why would mine b less than 204 JOFF i dont have a let mine is c20xe running throttle bodies and i have the rolling road report to show the bhp
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
why would mine b less than 204 JOFF i dont have a let mine is c20xe running throttle bodies and i have the rolling road report to show the bhp


Ah, assumed 204 was you quoting LET figures, my bad.

Rolling road figures are all plucked out of thin air though. Literally

Bhp is bullshit, even 1/4 mile times don't count for jack.

[Edited on 17-12-2004 by Joff]
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
quote:
Originally posted by iceman
why would mine b less than 204 JOFF i dont have a let mine is c20xe running throttle bodies and i have the rolling road report to show the bhp


Ah, assumed 204 was you quoting LET figures, my bad.

Rolling road figures are all plucked out of thin air though. Literally

Bhp is bullshit, even 1/4 mile times don't count for jack.

[Edited on 17-12-2004 by Joff]

agreed about the bullshit on BHP
Matt H
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17th Dec 04 at 15:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if you get totally wrecked the night before, have no experience & miss 3rd on every run you can achieve 15.01 in a tb'd xe

live the dream
Joff
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Is it just mine or is the 3rd gate on every F20 not as deep as the rest?

Mines got an MTech shortshift and it's a nice positive feel into 3rd, but it's not far off neutral.
Fad
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game on
lee mitchell
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the average for a corsa not stripped is 15-15.3 a let is very low 14s. me and corb both ran 14.4-14.6 in his let when it was only running 5 psi on limp mode. its now at 10 so will pull a 14 easy
Nic Barnes
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i ran 15.155 last sunday on a greasy track, boggo xe 16' wheels and 16 stone of myself. would get a 15.0 maybe 14.999999999 in the dry, maybe though.

with fwd, it dont matter how much power you have, its all about how you can put it onto the road. a 400bhp let could get beaten by a 200bhp xe, its all down to traction.

in fairness, the let is a far faster engine in std form than an xe, but only on the open roads. quarter mile belongs to well tuned xe. no turbo lag, better power all up the rev range and easier to drive and control.

thats my opinion, not a fact. have an xe corsa and an let nova for the comparrison, and i prefer the n/a grunt.
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quote:
Originally posted by foxy lady
quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
thats no standard GTi !


Sitting at about 145bhp


RR at 148.7 in feburary
Ditch
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17th Dec 04 at 16:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



spec?
stuartmitchell
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Simota ram air induction kit
SS Exhaust
De-cat

I think peugeot gave me a very very good engine

vibrio
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Dave's corsa with 250hp stripped trans-X plate diff got 13.3 I think at crail. Craigs C20LET conv got 13.8 at crail without diff, stripping etc etc
Karen
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quote:
Originally posted by stuartmitchell
Simota ram air induction kit
SS Exhaust
De-cat

I think peugeot gave me a very very good engine




No they gave the owner it! Then erik bought it then u
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Your quater mile time is NOT a good indication of your cars acceleration.

BUT! Your terminal speed is!
Nic Barnes
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94.5 mph for my terminal speed on greasy wet track. maybe 16 second 0-100
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personally beleive a LET will win, if can get the power down, a bad driver will spin it up untill 4th. Feather the power right and id say like tims time a low - mid 13.
Matt H
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surely a 1.4 8v turbo would be faster & more reliable?
Lucky B
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
Dave's corsa with 250hp stripped trans-X plate diff got 13.3 I think at crail.

13.28 @ 106.4mph actually.

A std 2.0 16v XE'd Corsa should do the SQM in the 14's, if not the drivers crap!

My 140bhp 1.6 8v 106 Rallye's done 15.07 best.

[Edited on 17-12-2004 by Lucky B]
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far less tourque though which plays a big part in the initial moving off the start line..

bradfincham - true as my nova would kill my corsa of the start maybe 1 out of every 5 races, but due to the instant the turbo spins, the wheels spin, so you have to back off and cant apply full throttle really until 4-5k in 3rd gear. means xe corsa is gone and have to catch up.

for anyone who was at crail last sunday, good example this.

mk2 golf with audi tt motor tuned to 290bhp vs my boggo xe corsa and i won, simply due to traction issues. the golf would spin up with virtually no throttle and would spin the length of the 1/4mile and still get a 15.3.

practise makes perfect though i guess

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