Ditch
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launch
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corner in the wet
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POISoft
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quote:
Originally posted by dave with the 944
Cant see what the P1 can do that the M3 cant?
handle for a start off
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dave with the 944
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M3 has launch control
M3 has traction control
The old wet twisties is a load of crap.
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dave with the 944
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lol at the m3 does not handle!
You guys are making me laugh now!
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Ditch
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having been in both (well not a P1, but a 280bhp scoob) I can safely say the BMW will never have the blistering launch of a scoob with the same power
I can also say unless you are extremely confident in the M3 your not going to feel like thrashing it through any twisties in the wet... whereas in the scoob feels a much more stable platform... no arse out business...
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dave with the 944
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m3 may not have launch control - or its just the SMG or CSL, cant remember.
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by dave with the 944
lol at the m3 does not handle!
You guys are making me laugh now!
The M3 is an awesome set-up car, but does not lend itself to wet roads very well at all.... well at least the E36 Evo doesnt...
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Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by dave with the 944
m3 may not have launch control - or its just the SMG or CSL, cant remember.
E46 does
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Stu
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quote:
Originally posted by dave with the 944
lol at the m3 does not handle!
You guys are making me laugh now!
Had an E36 M3 Evo a couple of years ago!
The worst car I have ever had!!! I know the E46 is a very different machine but its turned me off BMW's for life!
It was too heavy, wallowy, far too safe, far too comfortable.........just not raw enough! There is now way Id ever take it out on a Sunday morning just for a blast!!
I prefer the rawness of the P1, the noise, the 4 wheel drive security, the looks etc etc, the list is endless!
[Edited on 06-04-2005 by Stu]
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Ditch
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E46 M3 has switchable traction control, which me and a friend had a play with, and didnt really like. Probably quite good in the wet, but on a dry road surface the car felt like it went better with the traction control switched off...
[Edited on 06-04-2005 by Ditch]
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dave with the 944
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I'd soner take the M3evo but I think we are getting off topic now 
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Ditch
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Stu, if you dislike the E36 for those reasons you must really hate the E46!!
Its a heavier car, and has extra driver aids which the E36 didnt... making it, IMO, more boring than the E36
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Stu
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
Stu, if you dislike the E36 for those reasons you must really hate the E46!!
Its a heavier car, and has extra driver aids which the E36 didnt... making it, IMO, more boring than the E36
Dont get me wrong, it was a great car for say, getting to a business meeting in Bradford before 1pm, it was safe, comfortable, reliable etc etc......all the things I hate in a performance car! Leather seats in a car your gonna be taking round a track???? 
I have heard that compared to the E30 M3 and the E46 M3 the E36 M3 is a bit of a let down which I do take into account.
I have had a couple of tussles with E46 M3's in the P1 (which is 321bhp at the last RR session) and have never had a problem whether it be launching, in gear or round bends. The BIG thing that lets the P1 down is the brakes.........but this is in hand, just waiting for the 355mm kit to turn up then itll out brake them aswell! *A quick note on the above..........as most M3 drivers are middle aged business men, it is unlikely that they were giving it 100% like I was, but it wasnt even close anyway! 
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northloop
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HI there.........I noticed you were looking at mine and Daves site (dave with the 944 turbo) so i thought I would pop in and say hello.
Here's a little video for you shown how awesome a WR1 is compared to a little 130 bhp 205gti 
http://www.northloop.co.uk/Video/pug/wr1lap.wmv
plenty more vids on our site worth watching
www.northloop.co.uk
Gary
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