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Martin_C
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2nd Oct 05 at 19:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

gsi doesnt have much turbo lag tho, some folk didnt believe it was a turbo
1_Litre_Porsche_Beater
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2nd Oct 05 at 19:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

GSi all the way, mines for sale actually......
nik
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Originally posted by SJW
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Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by SJW
ctrs are for chavs,astra gsi all the way

How the fuk are you a chav if you buy a CTR???


cus people who buy ctrs think they are the greatest car on earth, and always strap themselves to my bumper at every opportunity

the ctr is the new saxo no doubt


What a load of complete shit. Most CTR drivers are 25+, a Corsa is slightly more 'chav' if you'd like to put it that way.
SJW
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2nd Oct 05 at 22:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i fully agree (about the corsa bit)

maybe wankers are a better term to describe the majority of ctr drivers
mattyboy199
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2nd Oct 05 at 22:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

neither Audi S3 better than both cars put together
dave17
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how can a CTR be chav, i forgot your average chav had around £13K lying around

my bro was making the decision between an astra or a CTR, he got the CTR.

you see 100 astras driving around everyday, not that many civics
1_Litre_Porsche_Beater
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quote:
Originally posted by dave17
how can a CTR be chav, i forgot your average chav had around £13K lying around

my bro was making the decision between an astra or a CTR, he got the CTR.

you see 100 astras driving around everyday, not that many civics


Although how many of them Astra's are GSi's?? There are far more CTR's on the road hence why i chose the Astra.
_Allan_
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3rd Oct 05 at 06:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Around here the GSI is deffo the more rare of the two. Maybe seen 5 GSI's on the road ever. CTR's at least one a day/two days. As for the chav comments. Please stop using the word for every opportunity to descibe things that you do not like. Where as most drivers are prone to be found driving them badly. The ownership of a 16K car does not make you a chav.!!!!
Stu
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3rd Oct 05 at 07:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

CTR is a much better car on virtually every discipline. Think I would sway towards the Astra out of the two tho, just cos its different. If I HAD to have a front wheel drive tho, it would the Seat Leon Cupra R as a few people have said.

Stu
SJW
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quote:
Originally posted by dave17
how can a CTR be chav, i forgot your average chav had around £13K lying around

my bro was making the decision between an astra or a CTR, he got the CTR.

you see 100 astras driving around everyday, not that many civics


stfu i once drove a 8 mile journey and saw no less than 5 CTR's on the way, i have only EVER seen about 10 astra gsi's
dave17
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3rd Oct 05 at 08:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes but the GSI is an astra with different bumpers and engine, look practically the same. the police drive astras ffs
Jambo
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3rd Oct 05 at 09:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im not a fan of japaneese cars.

The astra would be a much better real world quick car, as in gear times due to lots of torque would mean its fab to drive in all conditions.

Probably not as nippy as the CTR on the limit or round the twisties but id take it every time.

I wouldnt call the CTR chav, but it will be in a few years, saying that, so will the astra!


Astra for me everytime
Doug_SRi
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3rd Oct 05 at 09:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i am on the look out for a gsi. well i am waiting for one to come into my dads garage. dont mind the ctr but they are everywhere. also the comment above, the ctr i has different bumpers and different engine, looks practically the same. some versions even look like ctrs where as with the astra gsi no other models shared the bumpers or wheels or interior or engine or arden blue. Astra VXR would be nice but out my price range just now.
mwg
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3rd Oct 05 at 09:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Astra without a doubt. Personally I think it is a good looking car and as has allready been commented on CTRs are everywhere! They dont look anything special either.

And yes I find CTR owners 9 times out of 10 to be total cocks, they think they own the road!

1_Litre_Porsche_Beaters Astra is a very nice example of a Mk4 GSi IMO
mk4_astra
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3rd Oct 05 at 09:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by mattyboy199
neither Audi S3

hmm i think that would be my choice, nice looks, 225bhp and 4wd
Jambo
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3rd Oct 05 at 09:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

S3's are fappin wicked id have one of those over all of the above
CorsaControl
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3rd Oct 05 at 10:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by rustyarchs
CTR,,jap reliability,no turbo lag and excellent chuckability



CTR no lag?? It only comes into its own at 6,000RPM!!!
Cybermonkey
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3rd Oct 05 at 10:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i agree with a few comments on here, CTR's are just too oddball.
RS Clio Cup182
CorsaControl
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3rd Oct 05 at 10:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd have the Astra in Black with the smoked rear lights, irmy grill, lowered and smoked windows... Just describing the one i see every morning....its lush

I think the Turbo would be fun on the GSI, the ride is more refined not back braking.. Astra is more tunable...
Stu
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3rd Oct 05 at 10:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah, forgot about the Clio.

Reckon it would have to be a 182 Trophy!
_Allan_
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No chance would I have another Renualt again in my life. I think they use Duck tape and Zip ties to build them.
Jason Iles
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3rd Oct 05 at 12:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by mattyboy199
neither Audi S3 better than both cars put together


You know your stuff S3 everytime
Stu
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3rd Oct 05 at 12:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by _Allan_
No chance would I have another Renualt again in my life. I think they use Duck tape and Zip ties to build them.


I know what you mean about poor build quality but its the one 'true' hot hatch out there!!

mav
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3rd Oct 05 at 12:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

CTR's are so common......i have nothing against them but everytime i go out i see about 10, hardly ever see a astra GSi at all...
corsa5dr
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3rd Oct 05 at 12:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Stu

I know what you mean about poor build quality but its the one 'true' hot hatch out there!!




I agree the Clio cup is a fantastic car, I was really impressed when I drove one

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