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L33 LEG
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4th Dec 05 at 19:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
whatever u do tho dnt get a CTR
Fear
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I will be purchasing a Astra GSi if im lucky this week if not very soon!

The CTR doesnt even come close in my book!
Meat-Pie-SRI
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4th Dec 05 at 19:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
don't get a celica 190, they are pish!
PIE CJ
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if it came down to gsi or leon cupra r

id have the LEON

£400 on revo chip and you got a beast

300lb ft and 265bhp
Andy GSi
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quote:
Originally posted by L33 LEG
have u gone around garages test driving astra/leon/celicas? if not, get it done


i have with a celica, and a clio 182, not a leon, not keen on the shape of them TBH. i am waiting til i have a free weekend to go test drive a astra Gsi, prob next weekend.

are they quick? out of a GSi, celica 190, CTR, 182 and a seat leon, which one would be the quickest on a straight?

would it b:



  1. Astra GSi
  2. Seat Leon Coupra r
  3. CRT
  4. Celica 190
  5. 182



    ??
Jambo
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4th Dec 05 at 20:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
PMSL @ a civic being "upmarket"

Its a japaneese astra FFS.

Leons are mint, Clios meant to be fantasic hatches.

Astra is turbo so much tuning potential, they are quite rare (unlike CTRs) so id say leon or astra!
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10K - S2k

Niff Said
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quote:
Originally posted by andysri

are they quick? out of a GSi, celica 190, CTR, 182 and a seat leon, which one would be the quickest on a straight?

would it b:



  1. Astra GSi
  2. Seat Leon Coupra r
  3. CRT
  4. Celica 190
  5. 182



    ??


Cupra R
GSi
CTR
182
190

GSi CTR 182 Are close together
MR2Mike
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astra gsi, seat doesnt even compare
dave17
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
10K - S2k

Niff Said


big eck
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Leon cupra R works for me, smoked look 18" wheels, huge Brembro brakes and either 210 or 225bhp as standard with potential for LOTS more

just a taster





[Edited on 05-12-2005 by big eck]
Jambo
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s2K is ins grp 20
mwg
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Astra GSi. They are the best looking IMO and come with plenty of goodies. Also like the fact that they are pretty rare.

Leon is very nice but has 4 doors so I personally wouldn't get one unless I needed the practicality.

And CTRs are just plain ugly...
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in my opinion astras are just soo bland looking, nie engine etc but rathr a leon cupra r,
prob with leon cupra r is the inside is a bit bland and black.
id personly go for a CTR, people say common etc prob just becasue there better than astra GSi, the drving position is better, the gearchange is better, the engine is a one of the best NA 2.0s u could get and th sound of vtec is awesome, i know il get cianed for saying that as its vaux forum but most people who have hate the CTR havent even driven one.
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if i saw an astra gsi i wouldn't be like "wow "

I'd say an A3 turbo or a Cupra definately.
Nobber
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5th Dec 05 at 10:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'd say the Leon Cupra R but then again I am somewhat biased!!

Edit: Added you to MSN if you wanted to chat about the Leon!

[Edited on 05-12-2005 by Salon Racer]
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are they quick? out of a GSi, celica 190, CTR, 182 and a seat leon, which one would be the quickest on a straight?


In std form, the Leon.
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quote:
Originally posted by Salon Racer
are they quick? out of a GSi, celica 190, CTR, 182 and a seat leon, which one would be the quickest on a straight?


In std form, the Leon.


wrong check parkers, the leon is 6.7 then CTR is 6.4
Jambo
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CTR if caught off guard are slow as heck. Have raced many.

Raced a leon off guard and he very nearly beat me!

Leon tuneable too, remap gives something silly for little expendature.

Civic's are gunna be reliable, but Vtec is not what id say is suited to day to day driving conditions, BUT this can add to your wallet as MPG will be better

Go and drive them all and see which you prefer id imagine the insurance costs will differ a fair bit. Do some more research!
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That cant be right! I thought it was more like 6.9 - 7 seconds for the CTR! Maybe Im wrong, suppose it depends which site you look at.
Nobber
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He said on a straight, not 0-60....when they are rolling the Leon's quicker.

Also depending on the driver the leon is a quicker car, trust me. Been up against many CTR's all with the same outcome. I was even chatting to one of the drivers at every red light about the cars.
Andy GSi
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these comments are not helping, everyone has mixed views the only thing to do now is go test driving them all. will go test drive 3 cars this weeked coming:

Astra GSi
CRT
Seat leon

then see what i like. insurance is going to be the cheapest on the astra, which might play a big part in it too, and if anything went wrong on the astra, im familiar with the vauxhall layout/engine.
Dione J
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Astra GSi all day long, less common and lush when dropped with tints
Nobber
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I honestly don't think you would be dissapointed with any of the cars but I went through this same dilema when I got the Leon. (I had an Ibiza Cupra R before the Leon)

I test drove them all and the Meganne 225.

In the end I came to these conclusions:

The Civic was an awesome handling car, but you have to rev the bollocks of it to go anywhere quickly and I love torque as had a 1.8t for my previous 2 engines.

The Meganne was quick, but just dull inside and didn't like renault build quality 1 bit.

The Astra was....nice, very nice, but just didn't have the same practicality and look I wanted from a car in the end.

The Leon, did everything I wanted it to do. Big boot for Sub/amp + other thing, 4 doors yet fun to throw around. Looks nice (esp in Platinum grey ), goes really well, seen an indicated 150mph on my clocks before now, optional recaros are seriously nice and comfy too. Oh and for around £500 you can be pushing out nearly 300bhp and 300lb/ft!!!

Andy, it's all down to your own choice and the way you drive. I'll never go back to N/A engines now. I love turbos power delivery too much! When your on MSN later or whatever gimme a shout.

Hope this helps maybe?!?!
Andy GSi
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^^^ cheers mate for that i dont like the idea of revving the tits off a car everytime i want power. i want it there from the word go. which turbo gives. if the seat was a 3door, would be a bit better.

there is a few cars in this league to choose from, its hard

will just have to look at them all, and see which one i like driving, advantages of each and disadvantage etc.

BTW what is ur MSN address again, have i got it?

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