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Originally posted by PK1
I don't think diesels will become more popular in the long term, as not only does diesel cost more, its running out just as fast as petrol.
Hydrogen cars will be the same price as current cars, although there will be a perios where boyracers are 'phased out', as petrol prices will be skyhigh, but hydrogen cars will cost a huge amount. When hydrogen cars are the 'norm', things will be pretty much the same as they are now.
And stricter legislation too definitely.
oil seed rape fuel lol
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CorsAsh
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Interesting point about the phasing out PK1, duly noted 
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Alternative Fuels - Rape Oil and Sugar are the 2 i can see taking off, especially sugar route as British sugar are trying to sort it now!
I can see more kevlar used, carbon fibre car panels, carbon fibre alloys,
will be very much composite, lots more fly by wire, and the efficiency of an engine will be increased, currently its about 14% for petrol and 20% for diesel
Diesel tuning will increase - that 200bhp vxr diesel they have produced from some engine mapping!!
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you can get 190hp from teh current 1.9 CDTi engine with a simple plug and play modual
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bradfincham
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people may laugh, Rape and sugar Fuels are the way to go
the uk can easily grow enough to keep its own stocks going as the sugar route is basically ethanol so is much more useful
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Originally posted by robmarriott
subtle powerful diesels are the future
You really are getting old Robin my friend!
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CorsAsh
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Soanother point, what are the chances of it becoming like belgium, where no engine mods are permitted?
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ooooh, thats a good point, i could see that happening, it seems to work over there, in most cases, so theres no reason why the uk government wouldnt use a similar system
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bradfincham
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very rare, as so many people will become unemployed, it hurts nobody i just think that insurance will get stricter and perhaps the black box idea or pay to drive will become more effective in the future for younger drivers??
If we just improoved our roads, didnt put telegraph poles next to roads, had wider roads and not such short slip roads etc, better road signs then accidents would reduce
like france toll roads which are safer and clearer will become more common i feel 
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CorsAsh
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in that case would people just pursue the "show car" principle and make a small engined car with crazy bodywork etc? Or just abandon modifying tobuy performance cars when they can afford them?
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if anything the government will make all modified cars pass an sva test
if anyones ever built a kit car they will realise how damn hard this is to pass
the majority of modified car will fail i can tell you that
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CorsAsh
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can see some bodykits failing purely on the required edge radii sections  Another reason why subtle is the way forward!
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CorsAsh
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Actually thats a good thing to add in, bringing modified cars alongside kit cars for testing, they're pretty damn similar when you look at it
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this is becoming far to complicated for me to continue posting.... i was with you up until you sadi "required edge radii"
then it all went blank, everything, gone
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CorsAsh
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basically they take a tool which looks like a mushroom, and represents a human kneecap IIRC, any edge which catches on this has to have a particular radius, in other words you cant have a slash cut exhaust sticking way out as it would violate this.
Basically its there to make sure vehicles aren't too sharp.
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Any more people want to add their opinions?
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hover cars 
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Like whats been said above really, the main influence being legislation, and toughening up on current regulations.
Parts will have to be to a certain standard, like TUV approval. Also mods that IMO are stupid, like removing the front crash bars to fit big mouthed bumpers, or removing loads of stength out of the rear of the car by removing the rear wheel well. Stuff like that will be phased out.
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about alternative fuels, i've read something about using iron filings as fuel for engines.
obviously that technology is a long way off because of new methods that will be needed to inject it into the engine and the increased wear it would cause by being abrasive, but apparently when the particles are hugely small metal dust is mega flamable.
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Originally posted by myke
about alternative fuels, i've read something about using iron filings as fuel for engines.
obviously that technology is a long way off because of new methods that will be needed to inject it into the engine and the increased wear it would cause by being abrasive, but apparently when the particles are hugely small metal dust is mega flamable.
Yeah, I've heard about that too. Interesting stuff. Would prob need ceramic lined fuel systems or something
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definatly agree with the alternative fuels idea. My uncle is an oil buff and says there is only 100 years worth of oil left in the world  Mind you we will all be dead by then so it's ok
Stricter legislation on modified cars, perhaps a complete ban? 
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not being funny, on what mike said.
Apparently flour factories have a small habit of exploding 
Basically as the dust is so refined and fine, the smallest spark apparenlty cause a massive chain reaction which IIRC is more "explosive" than petrol/oil/diesel
So there seems to be alot future in that, but as mike said theyd need to work on the design
Cars driving down the road popping loaves of bread out the exhaust
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CorsAsh
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It's true Jambo - when thy fill up the lorries with flour from silos, they have to run an earth strap to the tanker, just like refuelling trucks at airports, as static electricity can build up, spark and cause a big explosion
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