broster
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no rr is 100% there is always guess work involved but they can be made accurate. depends how often they calibrate them, also depends on the operator.... can get osme shite results if the operator is a bit shite
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BeArDy
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quote:
Originally posted by justrials2
the rr is at peco was a few cars there that where standard an where reading stanardish bhp marks dont wana sit here an argue but where is there a rr where its 100%
post up your print out
look mate theres no way you can get 180bhp on a standard Inlet
this is a SBD Kit for the 2lt 16v to make it 180bhp and 160lb/ft
they would people pay for this if you can make it out of a standard XE 
what lb/ft did you get.
i know its not nice people slaggin you RR results but i am telling you now they are 20% over they should be.
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Steve
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20% should the trans loss'ish are you sure the figs they gave you werent fly and you thought they wer wheels or the operator was a bit thick and though it was fly power and added on trans loss?
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justrials2
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yes so why reply to the post in a unpostive
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BeArDy
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i agree its not 100% BUT 20% over it should be takes the piss
Powerzone is another place who have clown RR (well they used to) Davecorsa got 90bhp out of his 1lt 12v
post you print outs mate let us have a look and a read...........
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BeArDy
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yes so why reply to the post in a unpostive
to give you advice and tell you that they figures they have given you is way off.
you post on a public forum so expect people to post there remarks.
we are telling you not to go back there if that the number they have give you as they rollers are way off and if there setting up your car i would want the RR to be a close as poss. 20% is along way out.....
you sure you havent just added the 20% on yourself?
post your print outs so we can have a look?
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broster
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it was done at peco, as in the exhaust people peco? so thats why their exhaust systems give so much power!
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marklawton
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havent got a scanner so had to take a pic with my camera,
torque = 89.7
power at wheels = 88.5
power at fly = 108.89
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cash_2_my_corsa
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ive just had mine rebuilt with a big valve gas flowed head,kent cams,bigger pistons,std manifold,powerflow zorst+it made 165bhp at john nobles motorsport rr
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Steve
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why take it somewher like peco? surely you know there exhausts are pants so ther rolling rds cant be much better
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cash_2_my_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
no rr is 100% there is always guess work involved but they can be made accurate. depends how often they calibrate them, also depends on the operator.... can get osme shite results if the operator is a bit shite
john nobles motorsports in chesterfield is spot on there the ones who do the noble m12 engines.
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Steve
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it wont be 100% spot on, but close enough, your results seem sensible enough
[Edited on 28-01-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
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BeArDy
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quote:
Originally posted by marklawton
havent got a scanner so had to take a pic with my camera,
torque = 89.7
power at wheels = 88.5
power at fly = 108.89
i standard 1.4 16v makes 88bhp and 92 ft/lb torque so by the sounds of it thats right for you car, looks like whoever writen on the top of the paper (just cos somones writen it on in pen ) has made a mistake and added the 20% on
[Edited on 28-01-2006 by BeArDy]
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cash_2_my_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
quote:
Originally posted by justrials2
the rr is at peco was a few cars there that where standard an where reading stanardish bhp marks dont wana sit here an argue but where is there a rr where its 100%
post up your print out
look mate theres no way you can get 180bhp on a standard Inlet
i got told u wud be lucky 2 get 170bhp out of std inlet
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Steve
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yeah i bet those results were at the fly, and whoever wrote that fly figure didnt realise, or was on the blag
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BeArDy
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ye anything over the 170mark the inlet need changing for carbs or TB
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by cash_2_my_corsa
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Originally posted by broster
no rr is 100% there is always guess work involved but they can be made accurate. depends how often they calibrate them, also depends on the operator.... can get osme shite results if the operator is a bit shite
john nobles motorsports in chesterfield is spot on there the ones who do the noble m12 engines.
it will be be a very good educated guess still lol....
iv had my car on the rollers for about 4hours, tyres got very hot, this threw the reading out big time, let them cool down a bit and the results were a bit more accurate....
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quote:
Originally posted by marklawton
havent got a scanner so had to take a pic with my camera,
torque = 89.7
power at wheels = 88.5
power at fly = 108.89
who gave you the fly figure out of interest cause thats a fly figure for both torque and power
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j10E W
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i also went on a rolling road today was great day
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Fad
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and cold 
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j10E W
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yes was abit lol
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big eck
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
that roller is well off
180bhp on a standard XE
a XE with twin Carbs will make 180bhp on a RR but if they took it there would prob make 220bhp
take them numbers with a pinch of salt mate
it aint that far fetched is it, craigpcg's XE made 167bhp with just a s/s exhaust and an induction kit so one with a ported & polished head and fast road cams must be a good 15bhp+ more
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Steve
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did it occur to u that craigs might have been off aswell?
so any factors can swing the result, air temperature/pressure, tyre heat/pressure and so on
[Edited on 28-01-2006 by Corsa_Sam]
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Dave A
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those figures are bollox by the way. a lot of rolling road places will give you higher figures so that everyone is smiling and think that its been a great day and are happy with the service....... then think the place is great and come back time and time again spending more money.
thats why i drive 160 miles to noble motorsport to gem mine mapped and set up. they are honest and will tell you if your car is running shoot.
[Edited on 29-01-2006 by Ian]
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quote:
Originally posted by big eck
quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
that roller is well off
180bhp on a standard XE
a XE with twin Carbs will make 180bhp on a RR but if they took it there would prob make 220bhp
take them numbers with a pinch of salt mate
it aint that far fetched is it, craigpcg's XE made 167bhp with just a s/s exhaust and an induction kit so one with a ported & polished head and fast road cams must be a good 15bhp+ more
and claire's car with all the mods it has made????
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