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Krammy
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4th Mar 06 at 18:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers, have you got any pics of yours corsa808???
Dave A
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look in my garage.





they are now on a 30 degree inlet like this one:



[Edited on 04-03-2006 by corsa808]

[Edited on 04-03-2006 by corsa808]
Jamie Walby
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I have opted to take the 1.6 on throttle bodies route.

At the end of the day, just do whatever you want to do because threads like this very rarely get to a final agreement. Theres Pros and cons for both, some prefer one, some prefer the other.

Be a man and make you're own mind up
7 omm
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so, i think i'll have a look into t/b as pics above madee me twitch...lol
Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by 7 omm
so, i think i'll have a look into t/b as pics above madee me twitch...lol




im just down the road mate, more than happy to fit them and get it all running for you. i can supply management and make you a loom as well. also got lots of ecu maps for corsas on tb's and mapping software etc...
RickSRi
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dont tell me im stupid but can you tb a 1.8 16v

[Edited on 04-03-2006 by RickSXI]
7 omm
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yes i would say so.

corsa808 u2u'd
AK
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quote:
Originally posted by Krammy
SBD one's seem to be the best one about, i think a 2.0 on T/B will be too heavy on the front


where is your proof

Do you know how heavy a c20xe is compared to a x/c16xe?
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quote:
Originally posted by AK


Do you know how heavy a c20xe is compared to a x/c16xe?


how much difference is there?

when doing conversions ive always noticed that the 20xe is a lot heavier, gearbox as well.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rcb
A 1.6 on TB's will handle 10 times better.


AK
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
quote:
Originally posted by AK


Do you know how heavy a c20xe is compared to a x/c16xe?


how much difference is there?

when doing conversions ive always noticed that the 20xe is a lot heavier, gearbox as well.


I dont know weights.... hence the ? at the end...
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anybody know?
7 omm
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think of this thorectically, a 2.0 16v engine with the appropriate gearbox (F20) will be heavyier then a 1.6 16v engine with a F16 gearbox as the capacity of the engine is larger hence the more power in the first place....
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think an F20 is about 35kg
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if i had some scales i would go and weigh the f15 i have in the workshop.
AK
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quote:
Originally posted by 7 omm
think of this thorectically, a 2.0 16v engine with the appropriate gearbox (F20) will be heavyier then a 1.6 16v engine with a F16 gearbox as the capacity of the engine is larger hence the more power in the first place....


HAHAHAHAHA
7 omm
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????
Adam_B
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wtf no ones doubting the 1.6 being lighter thatn the 2.0, its kinda obvious

[Edited on 04-03-2006 by Adam_B]
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
quote:
Originally posted by 7 omm
think of this thorectically, a 2.0 16v engine with the appropriate gearbox (F20) will be heavyier then a 1.6 16v engine with a F16 gearbox as the capacity of the engine is larger hence the more power in the first place....


HAHAHAHAHA


do you know what makes larger capacity? More space..... bigger holes.... less metal....

Its the fact the the engine is physically bigger etc that makes it heavier.... nothing to do with its extra capacity making it heavier
7 omm
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bigger holes bigger block more metal in the long run?.......it aint really that hard to work out what i meant is it?.....
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my 2.1 is lighter than a standard 2.0 though.....

so.... er.... there goes your argument.

Also a 2.0 fitted with TB's will be lighter than standard. The inlet and std TB is fairy heavy.
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.... but so will a c16xe, so they both get lighter.

We need exact book figures for standard engines I tried google but found sweet FA
7 omm
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
my 2.1 is lighter than a standard 2.0 though.....

so.... er.... there goes your argument.

Also a 2.0 fitted with TB's will be lighter than standard. The inlet and std TB is fairy heavy.


not really? i didn't mention a 2.1?....

and even if both were on throttle bodies the 1.6 would be lighter.
AK
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are you actually reading what i'm writing?

AK
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from searching...

a c20xe without F20 is around 125kg

so with box, aprox 170kg

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