J4CKO
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Originally posted by Siberia
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so the clarify as it has now got out of hand my mate wants 80 pound for a 1.6 16 valve engine with approx 65k on it and im wanting to know :
1. how easy will it be to fit a 1.6 16 valve into my 1.4 8 valve<-- Simple
2. are the 1.6 16 valves easy to work on<-- yes
3. are they cheap on parts<--- yes
4. what bhp are they standard<-- 106/109
5. are they easy to tune and cheap to do so<--- yes and er kinda
6. insurance group<-- dont know
7. what will i have to do with regards to MOT DVLA engineers report ?<--- re MOT it and fill out the nessary dvla forms to change it to a 1.6...
Only some insurance companys look for an engineers report...
i would only consider the 1.6 if you can forsee yourself putting trottle boddies on it(£1500-£2000)
[Edited on 28-03-2006 by Siberia]
nah like i say im not going to spend loads on it just something a bit nippier so 1.6 16 valve maybe mantzel on and few other lil bits not throttle boddies
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Rileysport
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Originally posted by J4CKO
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do you want to drive around every were boucing your car off the Rev limiter? or would you prefer easyer power?
when you on the motorway at 70MPH do you like the engine to sound like
NERRRRRRRRRRR... NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! or just a nice quitish drive?
just something a bit nippy really i love how the 1.6s sound as well with a filter sound so loud and deep
ive been thinking i dont want stupidly quick just something with a bit of kick at the min my 1.4 8 valve gets boucned of limiter wen i want to  and its got 140k on the clocks
if you like the 1.6 noise you'll love the 20xe burbles, pops, whizzes and bangs mate... i have a fooked icv but the noise it makes because of it means its staying (and i can't be bothered)
also after having both engines i can say that the 20xe is cheaper to maintain, easier to work on and you'd be suprised how good it is on fuel too 
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J4CKO
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Originally posted by Rob B
1. Easy maybe one differnt engine mount.
2. extremely easy espicially with an aftermarket inlet manifold
3. Very cheap on parts
4. 106BHP standard
5. yes an inlet manifold, de-cat, exhaust system will see you at 120 bhp +
6. x16xe group 10 c16xe group 11
7. Engineers report is not essential that depends on your insurance company you need to fill out a part on your V5 document and post it off.
thank you very much mate spot on !
do u think it is worth doing then ? 80 quid for the engine change some bits whilst its out of the car then add mantzel on to it ?
like i say im not after quick just a bit nippy for cheap and to me 80 quid for 106 bhp is good, cheap and nippy 
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Siberia
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nah like i say im not going to spend loads on it just something a bit nippier so 1.6 16 valve maybe mantzel on and few other lil bits not throttle boddies
i'm probably misleading you a bit i have a 1.6 with a manztel... its a very quick little car... if this is what your after then go for it.... it will feel 10 times faster than the 1.4 i'm just bored at this stage.... I WANT MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[Edited on 28-03-2006 by Siberia]
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J4CKO
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nah like i say im not going to spend loads on it just something a bit nippier so 1.6 16 valve maybe mantzel on and few other lil bits not throttle boddies
i'm probably misleading you a bit i have a 1.6 with a manztel... its a very quick little car... if this is what your after then go for it.... it will feel 10 times faster than the 1.4 i'm just bored at this stage.... I WANT MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[Edited on 28-03-2006 by Siberia]
ive got a head ache now 
valver would be good and quick
but a 1.6 would be cheap and quick
i need a hug
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Rob B
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thank you very much mate spot on !
do u think it is worth doing then ? 80 quid for the engine change some bits whilst its out of the car then add mantzel on to it ?
like i say im not after quick just a bit nippy for cheap and to me 80 quid for 106 bhp is good, cheap and nippy
Yeah id go for it mate, will be quite nippy i love just being comfortable when driving not having to give the engine shit to get out of junctions etc..
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Siberia
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once you stick a manztel on the 1.6 there good fun... in standard form they aint brilliant... but an upgrade from your 1.4...
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J4CKO
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just i would help fit it with me mates cos i would wana learn about how its done but just hope its not to hard with wiring etc to do
how much is a mantzel ?
ive already got powerflow exhaust and green cotton filter
any ideas what brake that would give like i say just want it to be a bit nippy
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Siberia
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mines 125BHP from just a manztel.. the power deliver changes when you install the manztell to... dont know who sells them anymore though
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J4CKO
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the lad is going to look for wiring loom etc for me tonight and im going to have a look at engine and see how bad it is
he has said that my 1.4 drive shafts will fit straight into it
then he reckons it will take about 2 days to fit it
sorry for all this people just i really dont have a clue what im doing im a joiner for fucks sake
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J4CKO
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Originally posted by Siberia
mines 125BHP from just a manztel.. the power deliver changes when you install the manztell to... dont know who sells them anymore though
sounds fun that would suit me down to the ground 125bhp
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Dean_W
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mines 125BHP from just a manztel.. the power deliver changes when you install the manztell to... dont know who sells them anymore though
Mantzel still sell the Powerbox. I got mine brand new just after crimbo.
The cost is £520, and that comes with everything you need for the change. As previously stated, the power delivery changes. It comes in at 5K and sounds awesome. By for the best £500 i've spent on my car yet.
Try here: -
http://www.mantzel.com/
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J4CKO
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sorry cant read german
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Dean_W
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sorry cant read german
Babelfish
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J4CKO
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Wrighty
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1.6's are great
for the cost,personally,id go 2.0
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J4CKO
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Originally posted by Wrighty
1.6's are great
for the cost,personally,id go 2.0
just the only reason im keen on 1.6 is its 80 quid and a new head gasket
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PMSL I still cant believe that people measure how many miles they get to a certain amount of money instead of saying how many miles they get to so many litres Petrol prices change
well, do you go to the petrol station and say "ill put a tenner in"
or
"ill put 11.5 litres in"
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Originally posted by Siberia
do you want to drive around every were boucing your car off the Rev limiter? or would you prefer easyer power?
when you on the motorway at 70MPH do you like the engine to sound like
NERRRRRRRRRRR... NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! or just a nice quitish drive?
mine was never bouncing off the limiter in 5th at 70mph, 135 maybe, 70 no
even with no interior, and a straight through decatted exhaust it wasnt that loud
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PMSL I still cant believe that people measure how many miles they get to a certain amount of money instead of saying how many miles they get to so many litres Petrol prices change
well, do you go to the petrol station and say "ill put a tenner in"
or
"ill put 11.5 litres in"
so true
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schoey
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oh no, not again.
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schoey
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just put a valver in! means you can keep it standard and not be fixing it all the time.
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Mattss Corsa
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Could look at it like that ^ 156bhp standard
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J4CKO
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yup decidced i think ill just save up for a valver
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