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chr15barn3s
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23rd May 06 at 21:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
who needs to work round it?

20XE is easier to work round than a 16XE jake


Yep theres fuck all room in here

Robin
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23rd May 06 at 21:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you got aircon chris?
ed
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23rd May 06 at 21:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

On any engine, be it a 2.0 or a 2.5, for anything major I'd drop the engine out Much more space and it only takes an hour or so to get it in/out... On a 2.5 you can change the timing belt while the engine is in the car, where as with the 2.0. According to beardy 2 years ago when he was telling me about his engine when he first fitted it

And people saying the car doesn't handle well. Go take a drive in one and then comment. I haven't so I don't know. I'm sure the same applie to almost everyone else on here.
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23rd May 06 at 21:53   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i admit, ive not driven a 2 litre, which is why i refrained from commenting

and i agree with ed here, its easier with most modern engines, just to get it out of the car for a cambelt or something, due to the lack of space

even on my 1.6, the cambelt took me about 4 hours

out of the car it woulda been about an hour
N90ATH
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23rd May 06 at 21:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i would love the v6 engine but seems alot to have it fitted
Robin
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23rd May 06 at 21:57   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nah, powercrazy do it for what? 3k?

thats drive in, drive out with everything supplied

thats cheap for something so special

look at the link i posted nath, the black one is a 3 litre, that should be inspiration enough for you
chr15barn3s
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Yeh ive got aircon Rob, only works for a while though as it leaks its gases out into the air

3k isnt a bad price for a v6 in my eyes. But for that price I would be tempted to get the turbo
Fad
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23rd May 06 at 22:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get a V6, wont be as cost effective as an XE/Let but would be such an animal on the motorways cant imagine it would handle much worse than standard as Corsas kinda wallow anyway At the end of the day how many track days do you actually aim to do? V6 would make a lovely cruiser dont listen to the urban myths people make up on here...do what you want
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
On a 2.5 you can change the timing belt while the engine is in the car, where as with the 2.0. According to beardy 2 years ago when he was telling me about his engine when he first fitted it


are you saying here you would drop the 2lt to change the cambelt? I helped do the cambelt, tensioner and waterpump today on mine, was very easy with ample room.
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
On a 2.5 you can change the timing belt while the engine is in the car, where as with the 2.0. According to beardy 2 years ago when he was telling me about his engine when he first fitted it


are you saying here you would drop the 2lt to change the cambelt? I helped do the cambelt, tensioner and waterpump today on mine, was very easy with ample room.


mines had about four cambelts with the engine in situ....dont ask
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Fad speaks the truth

motorway miles the V6 would be so much nicer than any other engine

and for the noise too, dave west's (carabic blue one with carbon bonnet and black mos) sounds sooooo perfect
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Na I was just remembering the plus points Beardy told me there were to having a V6... He was very pleased with it.
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Well it looks like alot are saying the V6 is the better option.

So i would imagine them being as quick if not ever so slightly quicker than an XE to 60.

Then after that pulling away?

Would that be an appropriate assumption, plus they would have a much highr top speed?
Carl
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Originally posted by Rcb
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The v6 is more unique but is too heavy which makes handling shit, sorry! if I didn't say it someone else would have!


do you have anything other than forum derived theories to back up this statement?


It's general knowledge really, a 2500cc V6 engine is guna be heavier than a 2000cc straight 4 engine.


It's not general knowledge, it's called assumption. And as they say, assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
stinga
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get a v6, then stick some helium ballons in the engine bay to accompany for the extra weight
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I think the extra power will take care of the weight

Well tempted now
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V6 is faster and pulls alot better than a XE

it all comes down to how much money you want to spend and what you want.

XE is alot cheaper than a V6 to fit (down to alot more custom parts needed for the V6, Manifolds etc) plus the V6 would be about the same price as a LET.

if anything go's wrong with the engine its a pain in the arse to work on (other that the Cam belts ) as theres no room, you have to remove parts to get to others (takes me 4 hours to remove the rear manifold)

They handle just the same as a XE Corsa to the weight isent a factor in my eyes.

i would also say if you are going with the V6 then get a F28 6speed aswell, will have the car so much better to drive.

Bottom line is how much you want to spend on the conversion and what you want the car to do :-

C20XE - £1500
C25XE - £3000
C20LET - £3000

If its Power then get a LET
If it nice smooth cruiser Nice sounding V6
If its somthing alittle fast for not much money C20XE


Plus you would have to get someone to fit the V6 as its not a off the shelf conversion


[Edited on 24-05-2006 by BeArDy]
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24th May 06 at 07:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Surely for tuning options the 2.0 is the better option though?
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quote:
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Surely for tuning options the 2.0 is the better option though?


depends what he wants

i wanted a V6 because i wanted a Massive engine and to be differant everyone had Xe's and LET.
C0RS4 C
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24th May 06 at 09:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

V6 ALL THE WAY Put 's a smile on my face every time i drive it
N90ATH
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hmmmm v6 better start saving lol
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
Surely for tuning options the 2.0 is the better option though?


depends what he wants

i wanted a V6 because i wanted a Massive engine and to be differant everyone had Xe's and LET.
TB's on a V6... Turbos on a V6... Lots of options
mwg
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24th May 06 at 10:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes V6 on TB's
Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
TB's on a V6... Turbos on a V6... Lots of options


The prices are silly though!!!
Daimo B
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V6 is heavier than an XE. It has two complete blocks and heads compared to the XE's one block and one head.

It has two more pistons, two more rods, a longer crank, a bigger gearbox, more camshaft weight. Its heavy.

People can argue about weight, but it does weigh more than an XE, its argueably too big to be in a corsa.

Pros are that it is quicker than an XE, but slower than a LET with less tuning potential.

Turbo's don't work on Vauxhall V6's very well. Takes a lot of prep work. SC is the way to go. Someone in Europe has already SC his V6 (Flip paint, GSi kit). Very good straight line weapon. Would be a bit fearfull of driving round a corner in the wet though.

Throttle bodies won't fit a V6 in a corsa, not without serious bonnet mods.

Beardy summed it up right..

If its Power then get a LET
If it nice smooth cruiser Nice sounding V6,
If its somthing alittle fast for not much money or a track toy C20XE

Some people may argue about a V6 handling. Its all about maths, weight over the front wheels etc. LET's are gits for handling, but it can be done, but a V6, your never going to get rid of the weight issue. When pushed on the road or track, it will loose out big time.

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