broster
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agreed with steve on his one!
would be nice to see him in the 10's.
got to be one of the fastest road legal fwd NA cars now tho!
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AK
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you have 185bhp???
i had 185bhp and did a 13.9 
with a bit more torque though, 168lb/ft i think
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Scotty C
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Yes, but if he modify's to 4wd he'll loose bhp at the wheels due to transmisson and diff losses etc
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Steve
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was that at crail tho adam
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broster
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i have 190bhp lol!
ill admit now im absolutly rubbish at 1/4 miles....
im running 130lbft of torque, my 60ft times are lame tho, again!
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
Yes, but if he modify's to 4wd he'll loose bhp at the wheels due to transmisson and diff losses etc
what he loses will gain with awesome traction, hence how scoobies with less bhp and torque than mine can pull 0-60 times 1/2 a second quicker
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
Yes, but if he modify's to 4wd he'll loose bhp at the wheels due to transmisson and diff losses etc
but he could run more power, his cars not about converting to 4wd tho is it. its about going as fast as possible for as cheap as possible
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
you have 185bhp???
i had 185bhp and did a 13.9
with a bit more torque though, 168lb/ft i think
Abit more torque?
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Monster
Yes, but if he modify's to 4wd he'll loose bhp at the wheels due to transmisson and diff losses etc
what he loses will gain with awesome traction, hence how scoobies with less bhp and torque than mine can pull 0-60 times 1/2 a second quicker
got ya 
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AK
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Steve.... crail is SLOWER than 'the' santa pod....
Your terminal's are too low to break into 14's i think 
I was running around 98 when in the 14's
over 100 when in the 13's
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broster
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however if he has the 4wd the gains may be minimal as he will loose the power to continue the 1/4mile after 60ft lol
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alistairolsen
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I boubt hell break the tens with much under 600bhp, which is a very hard task. He can only go faster until he has enough power to spin the wheels at any speed at any point on the track.
Extra power will only gain him in the last eight, which is the less important half.
If he breaks tens it will be unreal, what hes done already is VERY impressive!
Broster, what 60ft times were you seeing? 2.3?
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
Steve.... crail is SLOWER than 'the' santa pod....
Your terminal's are too low to break into 14's i think
I was running around 98 when in the 14's
over 100 when in the 13's
seen some in the high 14s today with terminals of 95..... with a better launch i recon my terminals will be higher anyway...
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AK
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Broster: What were you 60ft stats?
I was actaully getting better 60fts with the std 2.0 and F20.... got a 2.1 most of the time... Bets i did with the diff and cut slicks was 2.2 on a slippy track i think.
If i did that on the pod surface i should be getting 2.0's easily
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alistairolsen
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terminals largely indicate power whereas times are launch and grip dependant (very broad generalisation)
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
Steve.... crail is SLOWER than 'the' santa pod....
Your terminal's are too low to break into 14's i think
I was running around 98 when in the 14's
over 100 when in the 13's
where does it get the nickname downhill crail then
iv seen some dodgy times come from crail
std leon cupra r's getting in the 13's etc
[Edited on 04-06-2006 by Steve]
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
where does it get the nickname downhill crail then
from fannies like you that have never been there
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alistairolsen
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whatever else you say, the surface at crail is erm........
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IvIarkgraham
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was gaz d's the blue one with steelies and wheels trims?
was rapid
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Robin
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the purple one Mark, with wheel trims and stuff
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
whatever else you say, the surface at crail is erm........
thats the point..... The grip off the start will be shite compared to the prepared surface at the pod
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broster
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yeah my 60ft was 2.5ish for the 3 runs which i know is lame. thing is last time i went there there want much grip, so my first run i launched thinking it would be the same but htere was loads of grip, so it caught me out, second run i bogged down, then the third run i started to improve, then sod paying another 15 for 3 more runs! will go again at a RWYB day.
was doing 2.3 with the old engine spec, still not great but better!
going to practice launching the car, today was the first day of driving it properly with the diff and new box on it, need to sort the linkage as selecting 2nd is a bit tricky!
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
terminals largely indicate power whereas times are launch and grip dependant (very broad generalisation)
agreed, the point of the 1/4 mile is getting the first 60ft sorted. anything after that is down to power
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broster
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quote:
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Originally posted by alistairolsen
whatever else you say, the surface at crail is erm........
thats the point..... The grip off the start will be shite compared to the prepared surface at the pod
pod sometimes has a very very slippy start, seen standard evos spinning like buggery there.....
then sometimes like today its very grippy!
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alistairolsen
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so now off half a second in the 60ft and youre at 15.2 and then theres the effect that would have on the rest of the run lol.
You just need to practice until you can get down to a 2.0sec 60ft
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