Robin
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but in the past 15 years, there have been no major advances in driver aids 
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Hammer
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Are you joking? most of the really advanced stuff may not yet be in full run production yet but theres protoypes that have the ability to park themselves, surely thats an advanced driver aid?
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Robin
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but cars have driven themselves for 10 years, just no one will sell them like it....
it'll be a good few years anyway
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Hammer
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yeah and that's my point, they've driven themselves for ten years, so how long until the raw driving experience is completely diminished?
The purists already believe traction control abs cruise control etc etc is eating away at it
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mwg
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I'll never buy a car that can drive itself. Dont mind mod conds like cruise control, traction control etc. but a car that drives itself is going too far...
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Robin
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traction control and cruise control would never be on a car i buy
ABS, maybe, because its much better at controlling brakes than a person.
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mwg
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Cruise control is excellent for motorway journeys. Not bothered about it taking any of the driving experience away cos theres not much worth experiencing on a motorway anyway 
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AK
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me too... if they made it i'd be interested
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Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Iles
Mini is badged a Mini not a BMW, whether you love it or hate it it a retro car revamped and thats what you asked 
The new Mini is badged as a MINI not a Mini. This is because Mini is owned by Austin- Rover.
That little Fiat is pretty cool.
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Robin
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yup. should be reliable too, as it shares components with the new Ford KA, but looks better
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AndyW
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 i absolutely love taht dodge challenger!! i want one
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CorsAsh
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I think it's a good idea to look back to older designs and apply new manufacturing techniques to them. Breaks up the monotony of seeing repmobile after repmobile and generic superminis rolling off the production lines.
Car design in general was more interesting and unique to each marque back a few decades. Whilst lots of styling changes are forced by legislation for example, it still seems that car design recently has stagnated somewhat - it's only just starting to change. Chris Bangle, for all the slating he gets, is at least breaking the mould with BMW, it proves that you've got to take chances to progress.
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Robin
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thats a good point Ash. everyone fears change still
I like old cars more than new ones, i really struggled to find a new car thats a great looker, whereas, you go back to the 60s/70s and there are hundreds, which is kinda why i like the "remastered" ones 
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Robin
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thats ace. didnt even know that was being re-done
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TNM
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Honda 2000.
S800
and then S2000
[Edited on 25-07-2006 by TNM]
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
I think it's a good idea to look back to older designs and apply new manufacturing techniques to them. Breaks up the monotony of seeing repmobile after repmobile and generic superminis rolling off the production lines.
Car design in general was more interesting and unique to each marque back a few decades. Whilst lots of styling changes are forced by legislation for example, it still seems that car design recently has stagnated somewhat - it's only just starting to change. Chris Bangle, for all the slating he gets, is at least breaking the mould with BMW, it proves that you've got to take chances to progress.
that looks rather like an exert of a university dissertation 
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Marc
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You'd think there would be more retro cars on the road. All the radical designs/concepts of the 60's can be made now and still be built to a safe standard. Always a gamble bringing out an odd car not keeping with the current trend though. Something thats worked well for Ford.
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CorsAsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Sxi04
quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
I think it's a good idea to look back to older designs and apply new manufacturing techniques to them. Breaks up the monotony of seeing repmobile after repmobile and generic superminis rolling off the production lines.
Car design in general was more interesting and unique to each marque back a few decades. Whilst lots of styling changes are forced by legislation for example, it still seems that car design recently has stagnated somewhat - it's only just starting to change. Chris Bangle, for all the slating he gets, is at least breaking the mould with BMW, it proves that you've got to take chances to progress.
that looks rather like an exert of a university dissertation
I've got a degree in car design so yeah, it kinda is.
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Hammer
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that would have been the point in the
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CorsAsh
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It's no excerpt tho, that's a fresh comment exclusively for CS 
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Marc
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Do we need to buy a magazine to read the rest ?
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Hammer
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So do you think with bringing the modern techniques of manufacture and design to the table these reworked classics are any better or worse than the original.
And the acid test has there been a reworked version better than the original in your opinion?
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CorsAsh
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Look at the life of the Mustang, you notice how its only the first and most current ones that are popular? The 80s and 90s ones looked so generic that people weren't interested in them, it was just a not particularly good coupe with a badge slapped on it.
The new Mustang goes some way to bringing the excitement of the people who bought the original edition of the world's fastest selling car to the modern audience. And so, even though it's not atechnically perfect car, people still fall in love with it, just put the flaws down to "character"
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Robin
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the new ones are more reliable, more user friendly and more efficient
but, they wont have the same character as the originals
except maybe the Challenger, which IMO looks better than the original
and the Lambo, which will be absolutely amazing.
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