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abdus
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

did you sign on anything?

did they caution you?

and did they tell you what the exact offence was?
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
which would mean they would have caught him doing the 120

not just by having a rough guess at how fast he went


The camera only says how fast the police car was going, not the car in question. If he hit 120, then was slowing down as the police car was trying to catch up, they haven't got a speed. Only a definate he was speeding.
Matt W
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

didnt sigh anything, didnt caution me or anything! saw no cameras anywhere and they didnt say they had evidence at all!
they just said ill get summons to go to court then if i plead not guiltythey will contest and say i was doing around 80-90mph
abdus
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

let them send the summons then

and then you start from there
Half Pint
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Photo copy your license so you can remember what it looked like.....


Speeding is sooo stupid, keep it to the track and not the road!
Paul_J
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Firstly what car do you drive out of interest!

Secondly don't have the opening line 'Well I was doing 120 mph'...

Personally, I think go to court and contest it (if it goes to court at all).

IF the police had any evidence (i.e. video footage) then you would be being nicked for the speeds you were doing! So by them saying 'well you were doing around 80-90 mph' suggests that they definately don't have footage / accurate speed calculated.

Similarily. In a court of law evidence has to be precise. They cannot say 'well he was definately over 70' or 'he was doing 80-90 mph'. They have to give an exact speed / average speed. Once again lack of evidence.

I got nicked for 101.4 mph but they had it all recorded, so pointless contesting anything.

In your case however, it sounds like they probably saw you shoot past, they chased, but by the time they caught up with you, you had slowed down - so they had no evidence or actual speeds. and have probably just pulled you over and said this all to you, to scare you.

Did he give you a verbal N.I.P?

i.e 'You have the right to remain silent, anything you do say can be used in a court of law - you will be getting a court summons for the act of excessive speed' etc.

if not, then don't worry - if they don't give you that whole 'you have the right to remain silent etc stuff' then it's instantly chucked out of court if it goes that far. But by the sounds of it, no court summons will ever arrive.

Especially since they said you'd get it within a month, but court summons have to be sent within 6 months. Did you even see them write anything down? They gave me a producer too that said excessive speed.

[Edited on 02-10-2006 by Paul_J]
Ajones_17
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

He drives my old car Paul. Like i said the other week Matt on MSN, even though the speedo read 120 you would only have been doing 107-109 ish so unless you stayed at that speed for a long time you wouldnt have been doing over a ton for long
corb
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They said they 'think' you were doing 'about' 80-90!!! Could they be more vague? Just stick to ya guns, say you were doing 70 and that they are wrong in their estimated, guessed speed!
Edd
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2nd Oct 06 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

bump for blebo
shaunyd10
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if you are ok with the police at over 100 mph 8 times out of ten they will let you off because they dont want the paper work for the instant ban so i would go guilty and take the anal kicking you will get off the judge 120 is messed up on a public high way
a_j_mair
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2nd Oct 06 at 14:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by N16K
Caught speeding-Advice please!

SLOW DOWN



true
Paul_J
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by shaunyd10
if you are ok with the police at over 100 mph 8 times out of ten they will let you off because they dont want the paper work for the instant ban so i would go guilty and take the anal kicking you will get off the judge 120 is messed up on a public high way


wtf? police won't let you off 8 out of 10 times for the hassle of paperwork - for over 100 mph idiot.

'IF' the police let you off for something like this, it's because they have no evidence and know that it won't hold up in court if you contest it. So it's not worth the effort for them then.

If they have evidence, it's not hard for them, neither is it a 'instant ban' - it has to go to court first and you have to be found guilty to recieve the ban.
Paul_J
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by corb
They said they 'think' you were doing 'about' 80-90!!! Could they be more vague? Just stick to ya guns, say you were doing 70 and that they are wrong in their estimated, guessed speed!


Exactly!
Meat-Pie-SRI
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by SXi_Tim
Secret to doing those speeds is don't get caught, but i thought if the coppers had no video/picture evdence then its your word against theirs really, contest it enough and you might get away lightly.


this is shocking advice! if you contest it a lot all you will do is wind the magistrates up and get mahoooosive court costs!

If the car was a vrs, chances are it had something called VASCA in it, which basically means you are screwed.

Bend over, learn a lesson, and drive slower - simple
Lucky B
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Caught speeding-Advice please!

Dont speed...

...if you cant do that just dont get caught speeding.

Were you cautioned?

Did they actually charge you with anything?

[Edited on 02-10-2006 by Lucky B]
DAYZEE
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They don't need video evidence to have you done for dangerous driving, due care and attention etc....

You already lost this one.
abdus
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2nd Oct 06 at 17:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

^^ here it's about speeding
Toby
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quote:
Originally posted by abdus
^^ here it's about speeding


my mate got 5 points for 95 in a 60 and cos it was wet and dark also did him for drving without due care and attention
DAYZEE
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2nd Oct 06 at 17:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by abdus
^^ here it's about speeding


Doesn't matter, they can get you for whatever fits.
chris-sri
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If you got pulled on that road and it was an Octavia VRS then it will have been a road policing unit car from either Almondsbury or Radstock. These officers are specialists in road policing and should have the cameras etc in the car.
Andrew
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2nd Oct 06 at 22:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You already had 4 points and were doing 120 IMO you should be banned for being such a soft cunt.
VegasPhil
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2nd Oct 06 at 22:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Typical do gooders.

Unlucky for getting caught mate. Take the advice from someone that's been caught like Paul. But it seems confusing that they didn't give you an exact speed they caught you at

You going to court then?


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Matt W
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2nd Oct 06 at 22:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive got to wait 4-5 weeks he said for a summons to come through, i saw no camera etc or video equipment when i was sat in the back of the skoda either!

they wrote something down once i gave them my licence and then that was it,

i recieved no caution and they said if i plead not guilty they will come to court as witnesses and say, and i quote " you were travelling around 80-90 miles per hour"

ive decided im going to wait to see if i get a summons, and if i do ill go to court and ill be adament i was doing 70mph, and ill appeal etc.

think this is a smart move?

btw its Ajones_17's old car, 1.6 sport
VegasPhil
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Those skodas have the suitable equipment. They're traffic cars. Did they not give you a stop sheet?


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Matt W
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2nd Oct 06 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they gave me no paperwork at all!

and maybe he cudnt get a reading on my car until he caught up with me at the roundabout?

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