Limecat
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A dimma cage is shite, a proper welded aluminium one is great.
One of my mates goes on about how they are dangerous as they are aluminium, so I just ask him why he has an aluminium strut brace.
Some people...
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SportBoy
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a cage is better than no cage .. a cage without harnesses is death tho lol
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Steve
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you retards the exact same happened to this
no cage and no more damage 
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Marc
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I love you Stcheven.
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corb
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My mate had an 18" sub in his AX GT, the box in the back of that saved him when he rolled it, that and the fact he's so short the roof was nowhere near his head when it had finished!
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Limecat
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
you retards the exact same happened to this
no cage and no more damage
Different car! It's like comparing Man Utd to Wigan FFS!
I think you will find that ALL cars must maintain a certain standard of roll over protection from the factory.
Didn't think of that did you?
Fact is that a cage is a benefit, even an ally show cage, just not a wanky Dimma one!
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Steve
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what are saying then? a showcage is only safer in saxos 
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Limecat
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No, but considering you decided to brand people as 'retarded' you don't appear too bright.
You know no facts about the speeds involved with any of the cars in the pictures, the facts of the incidents, how many times it rolled or what compressive and tensile forces the b pillars and adjoining sections can withstand on the vehicles involved. Therefore its like comparing 2 completely incomparable things.
The B pillar area of a car is typically very strong as it is basically a box section of steel, you will also find that you will have a horizontal strengthener between the billars running below the level of the roof skin.
That is why the cars will hold up to a certain extent, a cage will only aid that!
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Robin
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but the point of the thread was to illustrate that the cage helps, but IF Steve's pic was from an accident which was the same, the cage in the first pic has done nothing 
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Steve
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a show cage will not aid that, a show cage is not fixed to anything of substantial strength, and certainly wont save lives
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Limecat
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Originally posted by Steve
a show cage will not aid that, a show cage is not fixed to anything of substantial strength, and certainly wont save lives
Are you refering to what I call a Dimma cage? The things made from McDonalds rejected straws with the corner bends made of Duplo?
I am refering to singular piece aluminium tubing, in the style of the 'fearless' cages.
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Reedy
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Originally posted by broster
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Originally posted by Matt H
Did torque steer cause that crash?
Or is it not a 1.4?
that civic in the back ground has had a CTR conversion and the vtec ripple caused the 106 to fall off the road
I have also fallen into this trap of the Vtec ripple at trax this year
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jr
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a fusion fabrication cage saved spankee iirc when he crashed his first astra LET
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Corsa E-Tec
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they may not save livesm, but i'm pretty sure that they would help in a crash.
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topshot_2k
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poor poor GTi-6
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Ojc
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Originally posted by Martin_C
nobody said they save lives, you're always fucking on about this get a life ojc, dimma cage's are made of tin foil anyway.
What in christ are you going on about?
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by LETGSI16V
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Originally posted by Steve
a show cage will not aid that, a show cage is not fixed to anything of substantial strength, and certainly wont save lives
Are you refering to what I call a Dimma cage? The things made from McDonalds rejected straws with the corner bends made of Duplo?
I am refering to singular piece aluminium tubing, in the style of the 'fearless' cages.
im referring to any cage that is not attached to a structural part of the car
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STEvieXE
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
a show cage will not aid that, a show cage is not fixed to anything of substantial strength, and certainly wont save lives
a show cage is bolted to the same point that ur seatbelt is bolted too..
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ed
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The car is designed to crumple at the front and the rear to absorp the impact energy. The B pillars are rigid to prevent the cabin collapsing inwards and crushing people. I doubt the cage did a lot there, it just looks like it did.
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Robin
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seeing as the pillars arent touching the cage all the way down, it doesnt seem to have done much.
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ed
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The pillars haven't even moved. In fact, I would go so far to say that the section of the roof over the cage will have been untouched due to the way the cars weight distribution effects the way it rolls. The every case is unique of course.
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STEvieXE
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i am positive that the bolt in cage didnt do much BUT this talk of them being dangerous in a crash is bollox
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Limecat
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by LETGSI16V
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Originally posted by Steve
a show cage will not aid that, a show cage is not fixed to anything of substantial strength, and certainly wont save lives
Are you refering to what I call a Dimma cage? The things made from McDonalds rejected straws with the corner bends made of Duplo?
I am refering to singular piece aluminium tubing, in the style of the 'fearless' cages.
im referring to any cage that is not attached to a structural part of the car
So you have never seen a 'show cage' that utilises structural mounting points then? 
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SVM 286
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Having a 'show' cage is a bit like having a 'show' liver.
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ed
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I have a show liver
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